Villain is 23/18. (1,5K hands), 3bet: 7%, cbet in 3bet pot: 71%
Effective stack: 114 BB

He 3bet me a lot in these session and cbet obv very often IP...

What line do you use in these spot?

Ongame Network $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players -

BB: $50.00
Hero (UTG): $103.22
MP: $52.82
CO: $110.37
BTN: $62.28
SB: $50.25

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is UTG with 8 8
Hero raises to $1.50, 2 folds, BTN raises to $5, 2 folds, Hero calls $3.50

Flop: ($10.75) 4 7 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $6.00

Happily 4b $11 and call a ship. Maybe shove preflop if you think he can call wide.

Maybe it's -EV, the stacks are too deep for that..

C/R and call a shove

your only just over 100bb and vs a 7% 3b, 4b bluffing any 2 cards is profitable just in fold equity alone.

88 is going to be at the upper end of your range vs this villian in this spot and most definitely profitable to 4bet and stack off.

spew much? and that last post about 4betting ATC is obv wrong not to mention that he's very unlikely to be 3betting 7% vs UTG

fold pre, as played call flop and go from there.

If we have reason to believe that villain is 3betting us wide from the button, then a 4 bet pre could be debated. I don't mind the flat as we can set mine and if we think his range is really wide than flops where we flop an overpair like this one we are in relatively good shape against his range. obv check/fold all other flop textures.

OTF villain isn't cbetting 3bet pots 100% so we can expect him to prolly check back broadway flush draws lets say 30% of the time, we'd prolly expect a flat pre from 44 55 and 77 but i guess those can be in his 3betting range as well (not likely). So i think we are up against TT+ and every over card broadway combo. I'm too tired to do an equity calc (hint hint), but I'm guessing we can profitably check call this flop, but almost every single turn card hits his range.

I'd say we raise for value OTF which will fold out all his overs, nd if we face a 3bet i think we have to get it in as we r flipping against AsKs nd have some outs against overpairs. The only problem is that we r actually only gonna be flipping at best wen we call his shove, so is this a -EV call?

I guess we can also donk lead this flop but idk

everything besides fold is seeming to me like a mistake, while folding prolly is too, we probably end up losing the least amount of money here by check/folding.

I just did that --- check-raise to 18, and called shove

He had KK, I stoved it (with 31% pot odds) and his range maybe:

A9s+ (spades of course)
KTs+

99+

My equity is: ~29% with PokerStove

Little bit -EV

u think hes checking back Ad7d or can we include that in his range?

so I guess we can play with bet sizing if you dont think villain will pick up on a bet sizing tell. We have the option of making a smaller checkraise making a fold to a 3bet pretty easy. I think we can make our check raise big enough so that we are getting correct odds to call versus villains shoving range, that is if we are committed to stacking off on this hand.

again folding seems alright since everything else is very marginal.

That call pre is awful.

You'll have to brush up on your maths. Its actually a pretty easy spot tbh.

OP should see if he can get the stat for 3b% vs UTG open. Either way, a 23/18 with a 7% 3bet overall seems fairly solid and taggy, not loose and wild by any means and his range for 3betting UTG opener should be a fair bit tighter than 7% anyway.

You need to factor in your fold equity.

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Assuming villian continues with the the top 2.6% of his range 88 has 36% equity vs QQ+ ako aks, Now factor in your fold equity vs his 3 bet range and it becomes an easy decision untill he adjusts.

Folding isnt a mistake and certainly less variance but to assume my line is wrong because it may differ from the way you would play it is obviously a pretty blinkered view.

And 4 betting to stack off here is far from spew and certainly +ev.