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10-26-2016 , 12:00 PM
Villain seemed to be a decent aggro player.
saw him taking stabs at uncontested pots a lot.

His turn bet is pretty much repping a jack only. But he could also be just taking a shot since no one is betting.

do we need to call here with middle pair? I feel like if we are folding A6 here then villain's bluff will be very profitable in this spot

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 87.2 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 5)
MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
CO: 201.7 BB (VPIP: 34.64, PFR: 26.67, 3Bet Preflop: 5.43, Hands: 680)
BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 10.34, PFR: 8.62, 3Bet Preflop: 3.13, Hands: 61)
SB: 130.3 BB (VPIP: 29.03, PFR: 19.35, 3Bet Preflop: 6.52, Hands: 94)
Hero (BB): 106.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 6 A

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop: (9.5 BB, 3 players) 3 2 6
Hero checks, MP checks, CO checks

Turn: (9.5 BB, 3 players) J
Hero checks, MP checks, CO bets 7 BB, fold, fold

CO wins 9.1 BB
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10-26-2016 , 01:03 PM
Good spot to 3bet pre imo. Would be very interested in some data about calling this pre oop 3handed over a big samplesize vs decent oponents.
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10-26-2016 , 01:23 PM
Its not good 3 bet spot
Its a call
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10-26-2016 , 01:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Haizemberg93
Its not good 3 bet spot
Its a call
Do you have data to back this up or you just saying that? -_-
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10-26-2016 , 01:36 PM
You are closing action in MW pot with A6s no much reason to open another round of betting pre flop when your hand plays grate in MW pots and you have best relative position .

Call because if CO have strong hand he would cbet flop so in this case he have J or air.
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10-26-2016 , 02:10 PM
call vs this villain as he's a LAGG. He's betting any FD too.
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10-26-2016 , 02:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Haizemberg93
Call because if CO have strong hand he would cbet flop so in this case he have J or air.
yes he will have only J or air but how do know which part is more likely?

to me it seems J is more likely because
1) its a multiway pot
2) if he is stabbing with air he would have probably stabbed on flop itself

also by calling we still have to play river which will be difficult on many cards

so are we likely to win the hand about required 30% of the times to make this call?
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10-26-2016 , 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by invinci7777
yes he will have only J or air but how do know which part is more likely?

to me it seems J is more likely because
1) its a multiway pot
2) if he is stabbing with air he would have probably stabbed on flop itself

also by calling we still have to play river which will be difficult on many cards

so are we likely to win the hand about required 30% of the times to make this call?
I m not sure if he is going to bet river again that often because you can have J too
Even if he dose bet river a lot you can c/r river a bunch of time,yes you dotn rep much but he have hard time calling because his range is capped to air and weak value hands ...So yes you will win more then 30% of times imo
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10-26-2016 , 11:29 PM
Agree good spot tô 3bet pre... criminal fold you have a clear call here


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10-27-2016 , 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Haizemberg93
You are closing action in MW pot with A6s no much reason to open another round of betting pre flop when your hand plays grate in MW pots
It doesn't really. You lose your ability to float or bluff as much when multiway, ranges get stronger and your opponent won't need to stack off hands like two pairs and sets as often when your flush hits, and your implied odds are worse since the pot is bigger and you risk a larger percentage of your stack each street to chase your draw.
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10-27-2016 , 05:40 AM
3bet pre would be good. Call the turn.
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