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Old 07-01-2008, 10:42 AM   #106
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Re: **Official uNL stats thread, redux**

I was even surprised at how few called my cBets at NL2. I think cBet, and unless you have a strong read someone floats a lot and gives up on the turn, just check it down with nothing.
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Old 07-01-2008, 10:47 AM   #107
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For comparison, my position stats are:
Button: 34% vpip 31% raise
CO: 23% vpip 20% raise
MP: 15% vpip 12% raise
UTG: 12% vpip 10% raise
BB: 15% vpip 10% raise
SB: 25% vpip 19% raise

overall 21/17 at NL10
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Old 07-01-2008, 11:14 AM   #108
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For comparison, my position stats are:
Button: 34% vpip 31% raise
CO: 23% vpip 20% raise
MP: 15% vpip 12% raise
UTG: 12% vpip 10% raise
BB: 15% vpip 10% raise
SB: 25% vpip 19% raise

overall 21/17 at NL10
don't open limp.
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Old 07-01-2008, 09:13 PM   #109
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Ok, first 10k hands of NL25 are done and I would love any thoughts/feedback on my stats.


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I ran my hands through PokerEV and it showed up like this.
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Old 07-01-2008, 11:09 PM   #110
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Also, I think part of the problem with my win rate is that I was playing 10 NL on FTP and getting owned by the rake. I am moving to PokerStars at least temporarily.
Yeah, I would recommend moving up. 10NL rake is absolutely ridiculous on FTP.
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Old 07-02-2008, 07:26 AM   #111
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don't open limp.
Thanks for the advice. Depending on how often the pot is raised preflop, and average number of limpers, I think it should be +EV to limp UTG with eg. 22-55 and some SCs, whereas a raise might get me heads up where I don't have the implied odds for the set? Also, even if the pot is raised, it is likely to be a much too small raise, and already have dead money from limpers in it, giving me odds to call. Remember this is NL10 45/10/1.0 style games. With more aggressive players I guess I would sometimes prefer a fold with small PPs UTG to a raise.
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Old 07-02-2008, 08:34 AM   #112
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Thanks for the advice. Depending on how often the pot is raised preflop, and average number of limpers, I think it should be +EV to limp UTG with eg. 22-55 and some SCs, whereas a raise might get me heads up where I don't have the implied odds for the set? Also, even if the pot is raised, it is likely to be a much too small raise, and already have dead money from limpers in it, giving me odds to call. Remember this is NL10 45/10/1.0 style games. With more aggressive players I guess I would sometimes prefer a fold with small PPs UTG to a raise.
Yeah it's probably +EV, but it's even more +EV to raise so do that instead. You also completely define your hand to anyone competent by limping, that may not be too big of an issue now but it will be as you move up.

The great thing about raising is that you don't need implied odds, you have initiative and can take the pot down by cbetting or getting to showdown much easier. You can still hit your set sometimes and are more likely to get paid off because your hand isn't so clearly defined like it is if you limp call and check raise the flop.

Also playing SCs from UTG isn't really worth it until you're comfortable playing postflop. Once you have the postflop ability to do so profitably then raising >>>>> limping.
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Old 07-02-2008, 05:10 PM   #113
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well i decided that i have enough hands to post here so i could get an advice on what should be improved in my game... in general i feel pretty good about my game tho the results are somewhat bad... but anyway any comments are welcome...

few things i interested are :
1) fold to river bet.. to me seem like i am folding a lot on river.. perhaps more than i should ?! ( 70%) what do you guys think?!

2) 17/14/3.5 seems pretty tight aggressive... but i feel one of the loosest players at the tables... any comments on these stats?

3) any coments on my play in blinds... i try to play very tight at SB only playing premium hands for a raise and call with pp/ AJ/AQ sometimes raise AQ.. depends on situation.. i try not to call with hands like QT J8 when pot is not raised... folding even for a minimum call... playing suited connectors there mostly when multiway pots...
somewhat the same applies to BB tho i play a little wider range and willing to call minraises with marginal hands... suggestions ?

anyway hope to get some good suggestions on anything you might wanna give me an advice...
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Old 07-03-2008, 05:50 AM   #114
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Old 07-03-2008, 06:32 AM   #115
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Your CC seems low, are you calling a raise with PPs when you both have full stacks?

Your aggression looks crazy on the flop (over c-betting or bet/raise or checking/folding instead of b/c c/c)? Agg is anemic on the river. Are you value betting enough on the river? You want to get your flop agg down a little and raise your river agg by the same amount.

I haven't looked at PT2 stats in a while, but it looks like your c-bet % is less than 60%
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Old 07-03-2008, 07:28 AM   #116
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OK I'm going to give this a go...I'll put a (?) mark when I'm unsure if a stat standard or not...

Game - NL50 6max

Hands - 130k

VPIP - 22.4/18.5

3bet% - 5.4

Cold Call% - 10.3 ???

WTSD% - 25.7

W$SD% - 54.3

W$WSF - 42.9 ?

AF - 3.35

Agg% - 30.6

FlopAF - 4.17

TurnAF - 2.62

RiverAF - 2.60

Steal% - 40.9

FlopCbet% - 60.7

BetTurn% - 31.3

BetRiver% - 31.0

FlopFold vs Cbet% - 53.5 ?

Squeeze% - 4.6

Fold vs 3bet% - 59.4 ?

Call vs 3bet% - 32.3 ?

4betRange - 1.5 ?

UTG VPIP - 14.2

MP OU VPIP - 16.6

CO OU VPIP - 27.2

BTN OU VPIP - 45.7

SB OU VPIP - 52.7

MP ISO PFR - 13.4

CO ISO PFR - 18.9

BTN ISO PFR - 28.6

SB Defend Steal - 12.6 ?

SB 3bet Steal - 5.3

SB Fold Steal - 87.4 ?

BB Defend Steal - 25.1 ?

BB Reraise Steal - 8.9

BB Fold steal - 74.9 ?

C/R Flop% - 8.7 ?



Please let me know if I'm missing anything important

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Old 07-03-2008, 08:04 AM   #117
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HOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLD,

Cold Call, is this PT3/HEM or PT2? They are different.

It looks like you c-bet low and call c-bet's high.

You are calling a lot of 3-bets. 4bet/fold more, although your 4bet frequency looks decent.
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Old 07-03-2008, 01:57 PM   #118
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Hi im just posting this to see if theres anything obvious that sticks out in my play. I play 50nl on the ipoker network. I am pritty much break even over 50k hands (thank god for rake back) however i cant post my other stats because mycomputer got wiped so i only have this small sample seize thus far.

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Old 07-03-2008, 05:23 PM   #119
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HOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLD,

Cold Call, is this PT3/HEM or PT2? They are different.

It looks like you c-bet low and call c-bet's high.

You are calling a lot of 3-bets. 4bet/fold more, although your 4bet frequency looks decent.
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Old 07-03-2008, 05:42 PM   #120
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Re: **Official uNL stats thread, redux**

this thread is just not working as it should... i suggest mods to made some changes here... let people post theirs stats then pick lets say 3 stats and discuss them.. because this is just rubbish.. getting one answer on your stats is no analysis.. i think we need to make this thing work better for everybodied benifit..
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