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Old 07-09-2008, 01:53 AM   #151
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I hear ya about taking shots. I've always had the problem too, but I usually get over it after 1k hands or so, and then it's just poker.

So you have 400+ buyins at nl5 right now?

I'de play less tables and move up. You have the roll for nl50-nl100 where you could be making 10x the money you are now. Maybe stop at a couple stakes on the way up for a bit till you get adjusted. But defintily move up imo.
Yeah you're right. Time to move up I guess. Question though, should I play the same 28/24 style at 25nl, 50nl? Also, what changes should I make playing a 100bb game instead of 200bb?
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Old 07-09-2008, 05:26 AM   #152
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Yeah you're right. Time to move up I guess. Question though, should I play the same 28/24 style at 25nl, 50nl? Also, what changes should I make playing a 100bb game instead of 200bb?
move up slowly. spend a month playing NL10, then a month of NL25 and so on (BR permitting of course). continue playing the style u are playing that works and adjust it if needed.

generally in a 100bb game, u can stack off lighter pf. AA/KK for sure and generally AK/QQ. Sometimes even AQ/JJ,TT villain dependant. Also, you can't profitably set mine if you are 3 bet pf since u are now 100bb deep instead of 200bb.
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Old 07-09-2008, 05:37 AM   #153
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I've recently moved up to 2c/5c and after an horrific week, I'm moving back down to 1c/2c to re-build a little, I only have 6k hands but I'll appreciate some opinions on my own stats, so I have something to work on ready for moving up again.

I used to play 6 tables, though I have recently started playing 9 this week. The following pictures come from Poker Office, though I don't use a HUD. One thing I'm a little worried about is my WTS, most peoples stats seem to be around the 25% mark, my own is much lower for both my 1c/2c and my 2c/5c game. I would guess I may be blowing people off of weaker hands.

I don't like to open limp, I like to take the initiative and raise If I'm getting involved in a pot, steeling the blinds seems to be a regular source of BB's for me, though I'm struggling to increase my steel rate.

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I think your really a nit, start loosing up a bit and get it more to like 18/16/4.
Your missing value there are so much hands you can easily open, that you don't.
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Old 07-09-2008, 05:40 AM   #154
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Thanks X0zix. I am definitely playing to many hands out of the small blind and I have started to tighten up there recently.

There 2 things that might be a leak in your SB:
I mean there is nothing wrong with stealing blinds, just don't cold call often in SB. Ball till you fall, keep exploiting him until he catches on. If the BB is really tight, I'm stealing his BB everytime just until he catches on, and then I start tightening my opening range in the SB. I think that your doing good with stealing blinds, the leak of your SB is that when someone catches on, you keep trying to steal his BB. That's not the right thing to do. If you can fix that, it's gonna be a huge improvement for your game.

Ps: There might be a leak calling SB, limping in the SB when it's folded to you is the most horrible thing to do. Either raise it, until he catches on. Or fold when he picks a tell on you that you are stealing his BB alot.
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Old 07-09-2008, 11:19 AM   #155
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I think your really a nit, start loosing up a bit and get it more to like 18/16/4.
Your missing value there are so much hands you can easily open, that you don't.
Do these numbers represent VPIP / PFR / Overall AF ?
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Old 07-09-2008, 11:44 AM   #156
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Do these numbers represent VPIP / PFR / Overall AF ?
Yes sir .
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Old 07-09-2008, 02:50 PM   #157
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New here, looking to post more and hopefully get better and move up soon, appreciate any help you guys can provide. Thanks.






I feel like i should be opening ~18% of my hands preflop, but i'm not sure its really profitable at 25nl, anyone has some experience with playing close to 21/18 ?
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Old 07-09-2008, 03:08 PM   #158
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There 2 things that might be a leak in your SB:
I mean there is nothing wrong with stealing blinds, just don't cold call often in SB. Ball till you fall, keep exploiting him until he catches on. If the BB is really tight, I'm stealing his BB everytime just until he catches on, and then I start tightening my opening range in the SB. I think that your doing good with stealing blinds, the leak of your SB is that when someone catches on, you keep trying to steal his BB. That's not the right thing to do. If you can fix that, it's gonna be a huge improvement for your game.

Ps: There might be a leak calling SB, limping in the SB when it's folded to you is the most horrible thing to do. Either raise it, until he catches on. Or fold when he picks a tell on you that you are stealing his BB alot.
Great analysis. It was a bit of both when I look over my hands. I was stealing too much against the BB and getting into marginal situations. Also I wasn't correctly adjusting when people were trying to steal my blind. Rather than 3 betting I was calling with too many hands that I thought were ahead of their range. I did have good equity against their range; however, without position it was very difficult to extract value.
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Old 07-09-2008, 03:31 PM   #159
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I play 12- 15 tables and feel that I need 80-100 buyins for each level. I'm also afraid of taking shots.
2,000$ lol
that was when i started taking nl 100 shots (and losing)
anyway definitely move up man.. you can blow 40 buyins at nl 25 and still be overrolled.. at least play some nl 10.. jeez..
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Old 07-13-2008, 11:11 AM   #160
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Anyone can see some obvious leaks in my stats?

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Old 07-13-2008, 06:21 PM   #161
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Hngg... basically this summer.. had to start rebuilding again from NL50 and havent been able to play too much coz of traveling and parteeeeeing. If u can find some sick leaks please notify me. I know my fold to 3bet is quite high preflop but yeah.

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Old 07-14-2008, 07:36 AM   #162
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Anyone can see some obvious leaks in my stats?
Your WWSF is very low, but I guess it rly doesnt matter at NL50 since u can just nutpeddle.

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Old 07-14-2008, 08:36 AM   #163
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Hngg... basically this summer.. had to start rebuilding again from NL50 and havent been able to play too much coz of traveling and parteeeeeing. If u can find some sick leaks please notify me. I know my fold to 3bet is quite high preflop but yeah.

Posting this here is a pretty big leak. You're probably better than 99% percent of the people who'll ever read that post.
Not that I mind, nice motivational post.
Also those aggression frequency numbers are huge. Mine is 53.5 and I definitely consider myself one of the more aggressive players at 50NL. How can you find so many spots where betting is profitable?
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Old 07-14-2008, 09:09 AM   #164
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Posting this here is a pretty big leak. You're probably better than 99% percent of the people who'll ever read that post.
Not that I mind, nice motivational post.
Yeah, i know it looks more like a brag, but it's really not. Well I am satisfied with my game so far at micros, and it is also to show few people here how it can be done (obv my sample size is still tiny, but I hope it dont even have to be that big before I can move back up again). So yeah, it's to also motivate ppl here.

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Also those aggression frequency numbers are huge. Mine is 53.5 and I definitely consider myself one of the more aggressive players at 50NL. How can you find so many spots where betting is profitable?
I've always been pretty aggressive, but just for the last 4-5 months or so, I've been trying to pump up my river aggression and make ton of valuebets.

I'm don't know too much about AFq numbers, I used to use them year back or so, but then I got back to AF again for some reason. I do play on iPoker, where the regs are usually weaktight nits without the ability to read hands very well, so they're pretty easy to push out of pots, I guess.
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Old 07-14-2008, 09:31 AM   #165
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I'm don't know too much about AFq numbers, I used to use them year back or so, but then I got back to AF again for some reason. I do play on iPoker, where the regs are usually weaktight nits without the ability to read hands very well, so they're pretty easy to push out of pots, I guess.
I looked at it more in detail and the difference is on the turn and river. Which probably means I should read hands better. It's tough to make thin valuebets if you have no idea where you're at.

I've played some 10NL and 20NL on iPoker and I think the games were somewhat fishier than on stars. Then again, I was mostly nutpeddling with 18/14/3 with 55% W$SD. I basically left because there were no resizable windows and PAHUD didn't work with the mini windows. I wonder if it works with PT3's HUD.
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Old 07-14-2008, 09:38 AM   #166
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I basically left because there were no resizable windows and PAHUD didn't work with the mini windows. I wonder if it works with PT3's HUD.
Miniview works w/ PT3's hud.
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Old 07-14-2008, 02:26 PM   #167
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very nice bambiboi. consider making a vid please?
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Old 07-16-2008, 12:40 AM   #168
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I've been getting torn apart this month and was wondering if anyone could give me some advice.


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Old 07-16-2008, 04:58 PM   #169
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I've never posted in one of these threads, but I figured why the hell not. I just started playing 6max cash games seriously and am starting at .05/.10. Is there anything in my PT stats that I should be worried about?





Thanks in advance.
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Old 07-17-2008, 01:30 AM   #170
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QUICK QUESTION:

9 PTBB/100 winrate over 30K hands @ 25NL

Sustainable? Heater? ..........

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Old 07-18-2008, 09:19 PM   #171
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Hi. As mentioned earlier, here's my stats for destruction please.!



Folding to a River bet:75% - High ??..




Losing with 2 pair ??...
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Old 07-19-2008, 01:32 PM   #172
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I've been getting torn apart this month and was wondering if anyone could give me some advice.


Since no one else seems to give any, and pad e05 aint out yet, i'm gonna try.



Samplesize is obviously small, and you don't really show any stats, except for vpip/pfr and overall AF and some others.

Ur pretty nitty which is fine i guess for these limits, but ur overall AF seems to be only around 2.4, which i find somewhat passive-ish for that nitty preflop game. Don't know for sure though, since u don't show the AFs for each street.

U seem to lose money w/o sd which is also supercommon, but as for your WWSF wtsd and wonSD i guess ur just running bad or something.

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Old 07-19-2008, 01:39 PM   #173
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I've never posted in one of these threads, but I figured why the hell not. I just started playing 6max cash games seriously and am starting at .05/.10. Is there anything in my PT stats that I should be worried about?





Thanks in advance.
Personally i've never played NL10, but yeah i think those stats should work pretty well, even though there's a huge cap between your vpip and pfr, but I guess I'd wanna see as many flops ip even if i had to limp behind since players most likely suck so much that it doesnt matter how big the pot is since they will still pay you off. Keep it up, you might have to adjust your pfr when you move up a level or two.

But however, wouldn't look to much on stats anyways, do whatever works for you.
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Old 07-19-2008, 01:48 PM   #174
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Hi. As mentioned earlier, here's my stats for destruction please.!
Samplesize is pretty small again so position stats are pretty useless except for vpip/pfr and few other standard stats.

You could open up your game from CO a little in my opinion and I'd personally tighten up from SB, 35vpip is just huge.

One thing I don't get is how the hell u got so huge post flop aggression factors while you cold call and/or limp so many hands ip or something, hence the gap between vpip and pfr.

Overall WWSF looks fine, for some reason your CO and BTN WWSF's are pretty low though, but again, samplesize.

And again a reminder for everyone, don't force changing some stat ever. Try to find spots where you could do something differently, than you usually do. Take your time and don't autobot every situation just cause you're used to do something.
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Old 07-19-2008, 03:41 PM   #175
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Anybody want to tell me why I'm sucking it up? Calling Pokey back to the thread...

95% of the hands are at 50NL.

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