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10-17-2009 , 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Adrian.Alex
you call too many river bets? your w$sd% is too low. you almost never fold to a 3bet? fold to 3bet 20% is wayyyyy tooooo lowwwww for 25nl. at 25 they don't 3bet light.
Yea I find that at 25NL a lot of players like to min 3bet or raise only like $1. If I'm sitting on the BTN with 67s I can find myself calling a minbet as people play straight forward in 3b pots.

Though I just did a filter for "Faced 3bet Preflop" in HEM and over 200 hands I'm down $182! I'm down $104.05 in pots where I called a 3bet so thanks for pointing it out, it's definitely something I'll look into.

Clar
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10-18-2009 , 08:34 PM
Need some help interpreting my positional stats. Overall I'm playing 22/20 winning 3.34 BB/100 over 10K hands.

SB: 20/16
BB: 13/10
UTG: 15/15
UTG+1: 17/17
CO: 26/25
BN:34/33

Any help and thoughts where I may have leaks is appreciated.
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10-23-2009 , 01:47 AM
Hi all

So, after 20k hands I need to admite that I really suck . Anyone, please help me to find my leaks. What I am doing wrong?

Thanks in advance


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10-24-2009 , 07:06 AM
this might look like a thinly veiled brag, but I'm in the process of moving up\shottaking 50nl and just worried about a few parts of my game.

My pokerplaying friend thinks even at 25nl I'm a bit too LAG-gy, and I'm definitely going to tighten up initially. I think my W$SF and W$SD are pretty good for my stats, but would like to hear someone else say it.

I'm running 29/26 10% 3b

W$SF 46%
WTSD 31%
W$SD 53%

and I'm running about 5bi over EV with a 17bb/100 winrate over 25k hands (don't have my PStars stats on the laptop, but moved to FTP about a month ago)

I think they all look pretty damn good. Like I said I have been running pretty well, but is my WTSD a bit high compared to W$SD, or does my reasonably high W$SF make up for the times I get value owned?
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10-31-2009 , 12:51 AM
Hello, I'm looking for some help like this thread gives, but for sng's instead of cash. Can anyone point me to the right thread? Needle in a hay stack for sng stats. Or should I just post it here?
Thanks
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11-02-2009 , 01:12 AM
What would be a good agg factor(overall and by streets) for nl10?

I'm experimenting and was playing a 40/30, (yeah I know it's bad but only for experimental purposes) just trying to find out more about the game.

I'm going to play a 24/20 style from now on. How should be it different when I go back to the default style. Obviously agg will go up, but how will it differ by streets.


I will post my agg numbers later.
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11-02-2009 , 05:02 PM
I was thinking about win rates and bankroll considerations and did a little research on Current Win Rate (CWR) vs. True Win Rate (TWR) and came up wit the following:

Confidence Interval for Calculating True Win Rate

Obviously, the more hands you play and the lower your variance for any given stakes, the closer your Confidence Interval (CI) converges on your TWR.

Using HEM you can find your Standard Deviation in bb/100 or BB/100. I've used BB/100 since that is the same as PTbb/100, which seems to be the norm for win rates. Look for you StdDev down the left-hand column and match it with the number of hands played accross the top and find your confidence interval.

If your number of hands is somewhere in between two columns, you can interpolate between columns to get an approximation.

The table provides the Confidence Interval (CI) for a 90% confidence that your TWR is in the range between:

CWR -CI <--> CWR + CI

OR;

(CWR - CI) < TWR < (CWR +CI)

The way I see it, you will be doing at least as well as the lower bound of your TWR. So, if you have a high win rate, subtract the confidence interval from that number and you have the bottom end of the range for your TWR.

If it's positive, you are probably a winning player.

If your range of win rates extends into a negative lower bound, it doesn't mean you are a losing player. It's just that there is some non-zero probability that you are.

Likewise, if your CWR is negative, you'll find that the upper bound may be positive and there is some non-zero probability that you are a winning player.

I will soon add a 95% CI and 50% to the linked page to provide higher and lower confidence intervals.

I think the most usable aspect of these numbers is with respect to bankroll management. If you find you have a very wide spread of possible win rate, you need to take that into consideration when determining what bankroll you need to survive your Risk of Ruin (RoR).

I used the lower end of my range for TWR in the formula below:

BR = StdDev^2/(Kelly Fraction * TWR),

I use a Kelly Fraction of 0.5 (because I play mostly PLO and my SD is very high). A Kelly fraction of 1 is also commonly used, but seems to balla for my tastes. (My guess is it's good if your TWR range says you are killing the micros, though.)

My numbers basically say I need to have a 37 buy-in BR. If I use a Kelly Fraction of 1, I get 18 buy-in's. This could work at PLO25, since my current win rate is like 20BB/100, but I wouldn't feel confident having that small a BR if I wasn't running as hot as the sun or playing at higher stakes, so I'd stick with 0.5 for the KF. YMMV.

GL
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11-02-2009 , 07:15 PM
I should have mentioned that -

BR = StdDev^2/(Kelly Fraction * TWR) is in BB's (BigBets)

So, multiply by whatever $ value a BB is to get BR in $$$.
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11-03-2009 , 01:56 PM
Can you guys spot any leaks by just looking at these stats??

yea, I now I am winning moderately but running pretty good (high win at sd) and my red line is so disgusting

should I a) stop looking at my red line and keep winning or b) try to do something?

I think my blind play is pretty bad. w$wsf is very low from blinds. I think I am too tight and too passive (see the 3b% and steal defend)

I try to be aggressive postflop but I guess I am not.

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11-08-2009 , 05:26 PM
Hi all, just wondering if anybody would take a look at these stats and give me some feedback. I've been going through a big downswing, and although I don't feel that I've played my best I feel i've also run really bad. Just wondering if this is standard at 10 NL? I have a feeling its more my bad play then my running bad.






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thanks for taking the time to look at this, any feedback is appreciated
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11-09-2009 , 11:36 PM
Hey guys I have been a long time lurker of the site and figured with my first post I would post some stats for advice. This is my first "real" attempt at bank roll management and NL cash. I played mostly SNG's on stars but nothing too serious. So I opened a FT account, got rakeback, have been reading a ton on here and I am hoping to learn the in and outs of NL cash. Here are my fist 10K or so hands on FT. I have not been running well at all and am kind of embarrassed to post these. I am sure there are a ton of leaks so any and all advice is wanted and needed. Thanks in advance....


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11-10-2009 , 04:32 PM
Anybody? Bueller....Bueller......Anybody?
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11-10-2009 , 05:48 PM
20K Hand Checkup for 25nl 6max.

See any improvements I can make? The game seems to be flowing nicely but I'm sure I have all sorts of leaks.


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11-11-2009 , 04:58 PM
Anyone???
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11-11-2009 , 05:17 PM
What stats should I post to get a good analysis?
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11-11-2009 , 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by KeepDaChange
20K Hand Checkup for 25nl 6max.

See any improvements I can make? The game seems to be flowing nicely but I'm sure I have all sorts of leaks.


Your W4WSF is a little low. Im not really sure what would cause it to be low. Maybe you are not cbetting enough or are cbetting bad flops. Also you may be cbetting and giving up on the turn unimproved. You should be learning to barrel good turn cards for your hand/range. With your tight image you should get loads of respect.

You could also start trying to open up your game a bit in later positions. Start raising hands you may not normally open on the BTN and CO. Gradually add more hands as you get more comfortable playing them.
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11-11-2009 , 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by fattony7891
Your W4WSF is a little low. Im not really sure what would cause it to be low. Maybe you are not cbetting enough or are cbetting bad flops. Also you may be cbetting and giving up on the turn unimproved. You should be learning to barrel good turn cards for your hand/range. With your tight image you should get loads of respect.

You could also start trying to open up your game a bit in later positions. Start raising hands you may not normally open on the BTN and CO. Gradually add more hands as you get more comfortable playing them.

On the button I am a 35/30. Is that about right?
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11-11-2009 , 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Zeeba Neighba
What stats should I post to get a good analysis?
VPIP/PFR/AF/AGG%, street by street breakdown of aggression, W$WSF, WTSD%, W$SD%, ATS, flop cbet, maybe fold SB and fold BB to steal%, anything else relevant?
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11-11-2009 , 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by KeepDaChange
On the button I am a 35/30. Is that about right?
Really? You must be real tight from other positions then. I run 19/16 and am only 26/24 on the BTN and I steal ~35%
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11-12-2009 , 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Zeeba Neighba
VPIP/PFR/AF/AGG%, street by street breakdown of aggression, W$WSF, WTSD%, W$SD%, ATS, flop cbet, maybe fold SB and fold BB to steal%, anything else relevant?
After 11.2k hands of 10NL 6max:

VPIP 20.96%
PFR 19.49%
AF 4.79
AGG% 49.72%
WTSD 24.57%
W$SD: 56.27%
WWSF: 40.34%
call preflop raise: 4.32%
3bet preflop: 6.01%
call preflop 3bet: 11.38%
4bet preflop: 5.75%
attempt to steal: 38.49%
fold SB to steal attempt: 89.39%
fold BB to steal attempt: 85.09%
cbet flop: 65.25%
flop AFq: 55.78%
turn AFq: 42.27%
river AFq: 32.08%



By the way, has anyone else noticed that 10NL is about 78235x tougher than 5NL?

I don't understand the forum people here who keep saying they're both ridiculously easy. 10NL is waaay different.

Any advice on the above stats would be very much appreciated.

Last edited by setoverset55; 11-12-2009 at 12:30 AM.
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11-12-2009 , 05:29 PM
I played ~30 000 hands on NL20 6max and it wasn't very easy period cause of a lot of bad beats (all-in EV > winnings). I thought I had been running well just I hadn't luck enough. But of course, that affected my game and it was the mix of bad beats and bad play. I want to improve my game and find my leaks. One of them is non showdown winnings. My red line should be higher.



I also lose a lot of money from SB and BB.



There is my general stats:



I am waiting for advices how to improve my game. Which of my leaks make anothers? Thanks
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11-17-2009 , 07:44 AM
I am trying to beat NL10, I played my first 20k hands and I am really not very happy with it. I would be very thankful if anyone could look at my stats and tell what mistakes I am doing.


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11-17-2009 , 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by shummis
I played ~30 000 hands on NL20 6max and it wasn't very easy period cause of a lot of bad beats (all-in EV > winnings). I thought I had been running well just I hadn't luck enough. But of course, that affected my game and it was the mix of bad beats and bad play. I want to improve my game and find my leaks. One of them is non showdown winnings. My red line should be higher.



I also lose a lot of money from SB and BB.



There is my general stats:



I am waiting for advices how to improve my game. Which of my leaks make anothers? Thanks
Your vpip from the blinds is not particularly high so imo most likely you are playing too loose post-flop in the blinds. Look to check/fold rather than bet mid (and sometimes top pair NK) from the blinds in multiway limped pots.
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11-18-2009 , 08:40 PM
Ok I could use some help. How do I load an image to photobucket inorder to get it on twoplustwo. I got my graph to load to photobucket as a jpg. However when I try to save my stats from Holdem manager it gets saved as a cvs file and from there i cant get that file type to load to photobucket. Flame away

Thanks,
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11-19-2009 , 04:14 PM
Pull up your Stats in HEM.

Then Press: Alt + PrintScrn

This copies the active window to the clipboard.

Open MSPaint or Photoshop and Paste image.

You can then crop as necessary and save as .jpg.

[Also, CTRL + PrintScrn copies the everything on the your display monitor to the clipboard.]
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