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Old 01-12-2017, 07:40 PM   #6376
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Re: ***Official uNL Stats Checkup Thread***

Hello

Only 10k here but I'd rather start plugging leaks as early as possible

NL2 Zoom Pokerstars:

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GENERAL:


PREFLOP:


FLOP, TURN, RIVER:
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Old 01-13-2017, 02:15 AM   #6377
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Re: 5NL over 9500 hands - Stats analysis and improving Small Blind Play

Sample size is too small. You are supposed to be losing out of the SB and BB anyway.

People say you should be only playing 3b or fold facing a raise in SB. It's fine to complete with limpers in front but unsuited Kx, Qx and 3 gappers are way too wide imo especially if you don't have a plan postflop.
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Old 01-13-2017, 07:54 PM   #6378
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Small sample size I know but looking to move upto 25nl as soon as I have the bank roll any tips or obvious leaks?
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Old 01-13-2017, 08:02 PM   #6379
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Re: 5NL over 9500 hands - Stats analysis and improving Small Blind Play

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Sample size is too small. You are supposed to be losing out of the SB and BB anyway.

People say you should be only playing 3b or fold facing a raise in SB. It's fine to complete with limpers in front but unsuited Kx, Qx and 3 gappers are way too wide imo especially if you don't have a plan postflop.
Thanks, yes my SB cold call is only 0.12% so I only do it in limped pots like you said

I think i need to figure out how to improve my showdown winnings...
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Old 01-13-2017, 11:32 PM   #6380
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Re: 5NL over 9500 hands - Stats analysis and improving Small Blind Play

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Thanks, yes my SB cold call is only 0.12% so I only do it in limped pots like you said

I think i need to figure out how to improve my showdown winnings...
I am by no means an expert but I will offer my advice.

10k hands is not much of a sample. It took me a while to fully realize but drawing conclusions from less than 100k hands can be detrimental; there's just so much variance.

With that said, it seems your wwsf is a little low, WSD seems fine but AFq is really low. That combined with WTSD being a tad high tells me this:
you're probably being too passive postflop. Maybe calling down too often and not using initiative and position to your advantage. Could be some "fit or fold" postflop play or maybe not folding enough.

Flat more in the SB and maybe 3b less due to passive postflop play. 3b bluff from SB and x/c or x/f OTF can hurt.

Like I said i'm no expert but I hope this helps.
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Old 01-14-2017, 01:28 PM   #6381
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Re: ***Official uNL Stats Checkup Thread***

Big help, thanks!

Yep, red line not the best, aggression too low, I think I probably need to be raising and check raising Flops more, with like nutty draws etc

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Maybe calling down too often (...) or maybe not folding enough.
- yep, sounds like this could be one of the problems

Thanks man!
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Old 01-15-2017, 06:19 AM   #6382
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Re: ***Official uNL Stats Checkup Thread***

Is it possible for one of the more experienced guys to post a pic with all the relevant stats?

- 2Bet PF & Fold
- 3Bet PF & Fold
- Fold to F Float
- Call PF 2Bet

Don't need to show your db, just for a few hands, just want the proper stats.
Thanks in advance!
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Old 01-28-2017, 12:57 AM   #6383
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Re: ***Official uNL Stats Checkup Thread***

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Small sample size I know but looking to move upto 25nl as soon as I have the bank roll any tips or obvious leaks?
Stop being a nit.

Open up your ranges in every spot. SB/BTN/CO probably biggest leaks. Open much wider there.

19% open in CO? This is pretty tight bro.
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Old 02-13-2017, 06:15 AM   #6384
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Re: ***Official uNL Stats Checkup Thread***

Need advice. This is NL 6max







this is filtered for what I would consider to be the bottom of a button range or BigBlind DefendRange. I think I lost like $50 from 3bets in the big blind and button, and $40 from 2bets in the bigblind(attacking limps) and button. Also I lost $120 with this range when sawflop, so it seems to be mainly a postflop problem. I play a ton of nits. Basically had I not played any of these hands I would be up like $90 even factoring in the fact that not playing these in the blinds would mean a loss of -100bb/100hands etc. Interestingly enough I filtered to see how I did when I check postflop. LOST. Filtered for when I cbet or anybet. LOST. and of course folding. LOST. so I dont understand how people play these hand profitably, because I'm pretty sure these hands are in a standard players range, but then again I've been seeing a trend of people posting winning graphs with tight pfr and vpip stats.


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Old 02-13-2017, 11:49 PM   #6385
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Re: ***Official uNL Stats Checkup Thread***

Hey guys, only 10k hands at 10nlz but I am bored af at work, wondering what looks good and might need some tweaks. Thanks.

Graph:
http://imgur.com/a/SwD4x

Stats:
http://imgur.com/gallery/9slNv

(To see stats click on the picture and it will zoom, it's too wide to fit in the original post I think)
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Old 02-18-2017, 12:10 PM   #6386
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Re: ***Official uNL Stats Checkup Thread***

5NL on ignition, mostly Zone...






Flame away...
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Old 02-22-2017, 05:08 PM   #6387
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Re: ***Official uNL Stats Checkup Thread***

http://imgur.com/GGCEIoo
http://imgur.com/OzuLNIC
http://imgur.com/aS7t89k

hands are from 5z, 10z and 16z. any feedback or any topics that i need to study and improve at? if u need any more stats let me know
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Old 02-23-2017, 03:09 PM   #6388
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http://imgur.com/GGCEIoo
http://imgur.com/OzuLNIC
http://imgur.com/aS7t89k

hands are from 5z, 10z and 16z. any feedback or any topics that i need to study and improve at? if u need any more stats let me know
anyone?
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Old 02-23-2017, 03:35 PM   #6389
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Re: ***Official uNL Stats Checkup Thread***

Quick look into it,
Your BB/100 should be bigger OTB over the CO. From your VPIP/PFR looks like you're opening way much OTB compared to CO. Not saying that you're opening too much OTB, but it's definitely a big jump and most likely what's dragging your win rate OTB a little down.

You're also folding too much to 3Bets OTB, I actually believe that if you tighten up a little bit there you'll increase your win rate.

WTSD is a tad low I think
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Old 03-04-2017, 11:53 AM   #6390
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Re: ***Official uNL Stats Checkup Thread***





Thoughts?
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Old 03-04-2017, 12:08 PM   #6391
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anyone?
-Fold to 3bet from blinds (when you are IP) is way too high. You are overfolding here (even if you are opening 60% from BTN, and you steal 49% here).
-Went to SD of 25% is too low too. Confirmed by the fact that your win $ at SD is pretty high. You are probably folding too much river vs bet or, less plausible solution, betting too thin otr and transforming your marginal hands into bluffs too often.
-Your Cbet in 3BP is low which is ok if you are defending your checks correctly. If you are check folding a ton in 3BP, this is a leak. Actually same for SRP.
-3Bet is low everywhere but not sure this the place to start at your stakes.

GL
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Old 03-04-2017, 05:11 PM   #6392
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-Fold to 3bet from blinds (when you are IP) is way too high. You are overfolding here (even if you are opening 60% from BTN, and you steal 49% here).
-Went to SD of 25% is too low too. Confirmed by the fact that your win $ at SD is pretty high. You are probably folding too much river vs bet or, less plausible solution, betting too thin otr and transforming your marginal hands into bluffs too often.
-Your Cbet in 3BP is low which is ok if you are defending your checks correctly. If you are check folding a ton in 3BP, this is a leak. Actually same for SRP.
-3Bet is low everywhere but not sure this the place to start at your stakes.

GL
thanks for this man, gonna work on these. ive had the feeling for a while that i was taking the "no one bluffs at the micros" to the extreme haha, go the general thing to do is to loosen up more and stop overfolding as much?
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Old 03-04-2017, 07:36 PM   #6393
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jmond you can win playing loose. This is 2nl party:

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Old 03-07-2017, 04:53 PM   #6394
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Re: ***Official uNL Stats Checkup Thread***

Hello guys

this is my graph and stats at NL25z :


http://imgur.com/a/WQlLq

http://imgur.com/a/MRFRJ




i know that :

1. sample is to small
2. wwsf is high


beside that any advise ?

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Old 03-08-2017, 11:00 AM   #6395
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Thoughts?
Any elders wanna take a crack? I posted some of my own thoughts in my PG&C thread but was looking for some feedback here, as well.
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Old 03-08-2017, 02:58 PM   #6396
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This is pokerstars 5 nl 29,000 hands. After some disappointing results I'm concerned that I have some series post flop leaks at this point. Is it that I'm not betting the flop often enough? Is my W$WSF or other showdown stats a serious problem, and could that just be a result of bad luck? What areas of my game should I concentrate on improving for now? I'd really like ot move up in stakes ASAP, super super appreciate any input. If you would likem ore information let me know.
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Old 03-16-2017, 05:10 PM   #6397
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Re: ***Official uNL Stats Checkup Thread***

Hello,

Need help! I've moved to 10NL Zoom but cant get profitable despite trying very hard..

What are my most serious leaks?
Especially what am I doing wrong on BB?










Thanks!!
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Old 03-19-2017, 02:33 AM   #6398
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Re: ***Official uNL Stats Checkup Thread***

Hello!

Long time lurker, first time poster. Been grinding away at PS 6-max 5NL with varying results, currently on a heater. I expect my actual winrate to be much closer to breaking even. So, what do you think I should / must do differently to get better results?

Stats and the first graph are filtered to include only 6-way hands, the second graph also includes short handed hands.





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