i know i'm working on that! thank you

I seem to be winning at FR but losing at 6max... anything obviously wrong here, or just too small of a sample size?

In 6max you need to steal ALOT more and defend quite a bit more and you seem to be defending/stealing at the same rate as FR.

You could open up a bit more etc... but that is kind of minor at 2NL.

Hi, this is 5NL ZOOM. Don't know much about interpreting statistics so if someone can point me in the right direction will be much appretiated

Hi. I've been trying to get better at 10nl snap (888's version of zoom) and i started off great but my blue line has just been taking a massive hit lately. I don't feel as confident in my play anymore and seem to be calling down lighter out of frustration. Should i be tightening up and just playing strong hands at this low of a level?

Here are my stats, any advice is very appreciated!

your sample is too small, so it's hard to make definitive assessments. yet, I believe even with this small sample two things are reliably identifiable as leaks. I am not sure about the blue line, tons of things could be happening at the same time that end up changing it. two leaks I believe you have: 3bet and cbet.

I did notice you CBET is WAY TOO HIGH. that leads to two problems. one, it is naturally spewy because there are flops that hit villain's range and not yours. second is that you will be facing weird turn situations. you will be either giving up a lot, and opponents will pick up on that, or you will be throwing more money in a pot that you shouldn't be involved in the first place. look at your flop cbet success. you are losing money.

I also noticed that your 3bet is currently at 14%. that is quite high. and it explains a little bit way your red line looks so good. you are scaring all villains by 3betting a lot and cbetting a lot. they will tend to play back at you only when they have something solid. so you win a small pot when they muck (hence the red line being positive) but you also lose big pots when they don't and take you to showdown (hence your blue line being negative). you should try to 3bet less with hands that are dominating your opponents range, i.e., you don't want them to fold. if you 3bet you will win 4.5BBs or so. if you call you can win more by letting your opponents bluff into you. way more.

I hope this makes sense. start by adjusting your cbet, that is relatively easy to do. think of board textures that are good for you and the ones that are good for villains. there are tons of videos/articles about cbetting out there.

looks ok.

thanks a lot for the advice.

i noticed my c bet success % was low relative to my c bet %. i will try to get better at looking for boards to c bet, and boards not to c bet. With 3 betting, what would an example be? Flat calling aq instead of 3 betting from an MP raise because i dominate a lot of their range? wouldn't 3 betting because my hand is ahead of most of their range be more profitable? because villain can catch up etc?

I am probably not the most versed person to explain this, but I think the example below makes sense. I hope someone else can chime in too.

Say you are the BB, and a villain with a high steal %/high fold to 3bet raises you from the BUT. Your cards are AJs. You can 3bet here, hand is likely over, you make a small profit. If you 3bet, he is going to muck a lot of his AX, KX, KJ, QJ, JT. you dominate a fair portion of this range. you want to keep that range in and let him cbet. AJs can flop relatively well so calling can be a a good move here.

You still want to polarize your 3bets against this guy. So you can still 3bet the bottom of your range (say A5s) and the absolute top of your range, while some medium strength hands like the AJs you can flat.

i 3 bet a lot if i see good opportunities to squeeze and if someone's range is weak and i can force him to fold (e.g. button raise) or hj raise button flat i squeeze sb. i decided to look at my 3 bet success rate and its at 39.98%. That's pretty awful right? considering a lot of my 3 bets are SC and gappers, weak ax (suited and unsuited). I play on 888 so no hud available in zoom

3bet success is a weird stat to look at, so I wouldn't bother.

the breakeven for 3bet is around 67%, but when you are called, you still have your hand's equity vs theirs. if you want to see how you are really doing, create a filter in HM/PT and filter all the hands you 3bet. then check your winrate. this will include your 3bet bluffs as well as your 3bets for value.

i seem to be doing well with 3 bets, although my 3 betting from the SB is pretty bad. small sample size though so can't really judge any of this.

Thanks for this advice! It really fits my leaks. I was having a hard time moving up stakes (6maxNLz2/5/10) and I was definitely cBetting too much.

baannii4, I noticed you lose more money in SB than in BB. Maybe try, on you SBs, to fold more often or cbetting less when you have no chance to win the hand.

Aveun, for a good PT startup, see this post: http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/show...t=1&PHPSESSID=, I bought PT two months ago and it really helped me.

Good luck!

Alright, well I started to play the internet poker again and I am concentrating at getting back the feel of it. No multi-tabling, not playing like a nit, just experimenting what does and what does not work at 2NL Zoom.

Adaptation was a little bit tuff as I am naturally a non-believer (calling station, haha!) and the blue line takes steep dive in the first 5k hands. That being said, it is +500BB in the last 6k hands.

For my next 10k hands, I intend to call less, 3b more, tighten my range just a little bit, and keep on stealing the blinds of the 24 tabling nits playing 7/6

I am looking for any other suggestions from players who actually play(ed) and beat this format. Thanks!

Your total VPIP, Call PF 3Bet, Fold to Steal and Total AF clearly shows you should call less often. Maybe try to reach respectively 30%, 25%, 75% and 3+. These are only short term objectives and you should adjust to what fits the best for you. You can even raise more often on CO, SB and BB positions, but less often on MP and EP.

Hope this will help.
Good luck!

I am actually surprised you are not in the red. those stats are awful, sorry, no sugar coating here.

Just finished my first few days in uNL - been creeping on the forum for some time and I think it is beginning to pay off. I am open to suggestions and have a few observations own.

Around hand 8k I recognized that opening up button/SB with ATC seemed to be profitable. Very few people seemed defend in 2NL and it seemed that less than 10% of the time people play back at you. If people adjusted I would simply tighten up and play poker in position. I found myself rarely cbetting the flop with trash unless the board was super dry and seemed to get a lot of folds if I delayed my cbet until the turn.

I also understand that I am running above my all-in EV and that my I had some sick wins from the BB. Surely I won't run as well for ever. What are appropriate loss rates per hand in the blinds?

Lastly, I suspect my aggression factor is too high. Can anyone suggest filters to help me drill into my leaks?

Thanks all!

your aggression is high because you 3bet 11.7% of hands. I don't necessarily think a 3bet that high is necessary in NL2. you can be more selective. there are some spots where calling might be better, i.e, to keep the fish in.

Hi all lads, I have desperately been asking these days here around whats happening to my game! It seems that I'm gonna get the 1st prize for being the " BEST BREAKEVEN PLAYER " at nl2.... I have been trying to improve my game in any possible way and from what i read my stats are not so far from the requires to be a winner at nl2.

So please if u can give me a hand here, some leaks, or some ways to improve my stats and my overall game that would be much appreciated for a micro-player!

Thanks all in advance! nl2-6max


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In summary, too passive and too tight. It's 2nl though, where playing that way usually doesn't make a losing player, so I suspect you may have situational leaks where you may be paying off way too loose and/or losing value in some spots.

Flop cbet% is way too low, specially for a pfr of 15%. You need to bet a lot more flops after you've raised before the flop. Cbet with overcards, cbet with flush draws, cbet with oesd.

Vpip is okay, but you have little positional awareness. You need to play more hands the closer you are to the button. Pfr from the earliest position is okay, but you've got to open raise more hands as you get closer to the button. Search for some open raising 6max tables to get an idea of how much more you can raise from CO and BTN.

Fold to flop cbet % is WAY too high and probably the biggest leak looking at your stats, specially given that you're calling raises and defending blinds with a strong range. Should be around 40-50% instead of 75%. Start giving less credit to villains betting to you on the flop and call with second pair, strong overcards like AK/AQ, draws, one pair + gutshot, one pair + oesd, etc. You can fold when you think your hand is vulnerable and you're facing multiple bets. Also your donk bet% is really high and explains the really high fold to flop% cbet: you're betting into the preflop aggressor out of position with your best hands instead of checking and giving your opponent and opportunity to bluff at the pot. You're checking with all you're bad hands and making your opponent bluffing you off the hand with almost any holding.

General advice for beating 2nl is just considering everyone is ******ed unless proven otherwise. Bet, bet and bet big with your premium holdings and fold to any strong bet from any opponent who's shown resistance with almost anything besides the best possible holding on the board. Could be a good idea to post hand history of the biggest pots that you've lost.

Hope that helped. Good luck

Wwsf is too high for 2nl and a vpip of 22. You're bluffing too often or probably betting when there isn't a lot of value.

Your pf 3bet% would be high even in the medium to high stakes, making your vpip-pfr gap too low. Flat more medium strength hands from the blinds, CO and BTN instead of 3betting vs villains with low pfr or low fold to pf 3bet% (I.e. almost everyone at 2nl).

Your pf fold to 3bet% is too high. Don't fold with decent hands vs mediocre players, even if they have a strong range. You can outplay them postflop in position.

Lastly you have little positional awareness except for the button. Pfr from utg is okay, although could be a tad higher (are you open raising AJo, KQo, JTs, 66? You should). Pfr from utg +1 is low. Btn pfr is way too high. Filter the worse hands you open raise from the button and see how much evbb you're getting. Likely -EV. That explains the breakeven winrate in that position.

Edit: almost missed your wtsd; it's quite low. Can be bc of too much aggression, folding too much or both. WSD is on the low side so probably just too much aggression. Post fold stats just to make sure: fold to cbet%, fold to river bet, WSD after river call %.

Hope that helped.

Can anybody give me advice with this nonsense

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The thing that bothers me most is that I feel like Im playing better (statwise atleast) in my downswing sessions and I was prett much loose passive fish on my upswing ones.. My worst leaks are low river call eff and w$sd. If u need other stats let me know I will be thankful for any kinda help

sry for the spam but I should probably add this also

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both zoom.. It's OBVIOUS that the extra table wasn't the best idea but I didn't expect that.. Can you suggest how can I adapt from 2tbls to 3 ?
I will cont on 2 tables but I strongly consider giving a shot to 3-tabling again in the near future. I don't see any point of 2-tabling when I will be averaging MAX 10k hands a week...

You should post more stats to assess what might be your problem: wwsf, wsd after river bet and wsd after river call, flop cbet, flop fold to cbet, 3bet steal, fold to 3bet, etc. WSD is really low for a wtsd of 29%. Only explanation with your stats is that you're bluffing a lot of rivers (you have a low % of aggression though) or calling the rivers you shouldnt and folding the rivers you should call. Like I said your % of aggression is quite low; you might not be thin value betting enough or protecting your equity enough.

Your stats are mostly pretty good though. You're positionally aware and your vpip and pfr are good. The low WSD might just indicate that you're running really bad. Post the stats I said at the beginning, specially wsd after river call and wsd after river bet.

And keep playing 3 tables. The difference in winrate is variance. You can never expect such a difference in winrate when adding 50% more tables.

First thank you for your fast response and helpful tips about analyzing my stats !! About the issue:
1.
WWSF - 42,643 hands / 47,2%
Flop Cbet - 42,643 hands / 78,4%
Flop fold to Cbet - 42,643 hands / 33,8 %
vs 3bet call (couldn't find vs 3bet fold stat) - 42,643 / 47,2%

2. filtered hands
WSD after river call - 37,9 % (-607,76 bb/100 )
WSD after river bet - 43,4 % (1,463 bb/100 )

About No.1 --> low fold vs Cbets and 3bets I guess thats because the nature of the micros. I aint gonna fold against 3bet from sb or bb a lot of the time I'm not sure the plrs in this lvl can defend profitable OOP vs steals.

About No.2 --> that hitted me hard I'm probably playing automatic especially after swithching to 3tbls. Most of the time I will read villains hand correctly but still call with trashy hand like 2 pairs or set on super wet board... I guess I should try to think a lil bit more befour making a turn and river decision. As of right now I'm pretty much gambling my bankroll in ZOOM which is terrible idea giving the fact that ZOOM plyrs will rarely see a showdown withouth a VERY good hand. I had a session earlier today 3 tabling as you suggested (1,500 hands) and here are the stats:




thats it for now and once again - thank you for your help !!