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12-07-2010, 08:13 PM
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#3001
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old hand
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: raising benjamin button
Posts: 1,318
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Re: ***Official uNL Stats Thread***
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Originally Posted by donkeyadmin
Thanks. I tend to do "super star" calldowns. And it seems to be costly.. Also i feel that my blind play is terrible. Any advice sir?
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im terrible at reading these PT stats cause i never used PT but am i getting that your ATS is 42%? thats too high. just like the other guys i commented on at this i bet you're putting yourself in a bunch of marginal spots and you don't know what to do when you have tpgk or like mp+ straight draw or something idk. a lot of spots where you don't want to be in OOP for sure. try to play in position a lot more, your winrate is sure to go up a bit just from that.
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12-07-2010, 09:59 PM
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#3002
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stranger
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 8
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Re: ***Official uNL Stats Thread***
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Originally Posted by ajt8
im terrible at reading these PT stats cause i never used PT but am i getting that your ATS is 42%? thats too high. just like the other guys i commented on at this i bet you're putting yourself in a bunch of marginal spots and you don't know what to do when you have tpgk or like mp+ straight draw or something idk. a lot of spots where you don't want to be in OOP for sure. try to play in position a lot more, your winrate is sure to go up a bit just from that.
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Whats a good stat to be aiming at ATS? I am aware that it is villain-dependant. But what's a good stat on average?
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12-07-2010, 10:01 PM
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#3003
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old hand
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: raising benjamin button
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Re: ***Official uNL Stats Thread***
anywhere around 30% is probably near optimal. use basic logic to figure out if your opponent is smart enough to know you are bullying him, and be prepared to have the goods if he thinks that.
the important thing to get out of stealing is that you're not looking to build a pot or make call downs with marginal hands, make a stealing range you are comfortable with. think about the bottom line, $$
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12-08-2010, 07:46 AM
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#3004
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newbie
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 24
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Re: ***Official uNL Stats Thread***
thanks ajt8.
What i meant with 2nd barreling was that if they call our cbet, and we have air, I profit more from just giving up rather than trying to 2nd barrel, cause they always call with anything that has sdv (in their eyes).
Here are my stats from NL5. From what I understand, the red line going downwards is normal in the micros?
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12-08-2010, 11:03 AM
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#3005
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newbie
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Lake Zurich, IL
Posts: 21
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Re: ***Official uNL Stats Thread***
Hello, I've played a decent number of hands but am pretty much a break even player. This is me up only $300 after 33,315 hands playing 50nl rush poker (6max). If anyone is willing to help me out and analyze my game from these stats i would greatly appreciate it. If i should post all positional statistics let me know if that makes it easier to analyze. Thanks!
Hands: 33,315
VP$IP: 26.15
PFR: 19.81
CCPF: 9.38
Win%: 19.74
W$WSF: 42.37
Amount Blind: $4,189.00
Amount Won: $305.95
W$SD: 50.27
WTSD: 26.25
BB/100: .92
BB/Hour: 5.9
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12-08-2010, 06:53 PM
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#3006
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grinder
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 464
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Re: ***Official uNL Stats Thread***
Can someone take a look at my stats? Thanks!
This stats are for 25nl SH.
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12-08-2010, 07:02 PM
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#3007
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centurion
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: liverpool UK
Posts: 100
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Re: ***Official uNL Stats Thread***
Hi All
Would like some feedback on the graph and the stats if possible...I am currently winning at 10nl but I do suffer some swingy sessions, and my blue and red lines should be the opposite way around ...any advice welcome
thanks
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12-08-2010, 10:20 PM
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#3008
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old hand
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: raising benjamin button
Posts: 1,318
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Re: ***Official uNL Stats Thread***
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Originally Posted by HaxyQ
thanks ajt8.
What i meant with 2nd barreling was that if they call our cbet, and we have air, I profit more from just giving up rather than trying to 2nd barrel, cause they always call with anything that has sdv (in their eyes).
Here are my stats from NL5. From what I understand, the red line going downwards is normal in the micros?
graphs
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yes red line doesn't matter, it is just beginning to matter to me and i am about to move up to ssnl
look at your money lost in bb dude. wtf. stop overplaying your hands out of position and you'll probably do fine. look at your hands played like AJo and those type of hands and see how much money you have dumped off. do a little study and make some ranges for your self to call and 3b from each position, most importantly oop positions. this will help your game tremendously
and about your first comment, you're pretty much on target, but that doesn't mean there are not spots for you to drop 2 or 3 barrels. consider board texture, paired turns and rivers, potential and missed fd/sds, think about what you are trying to get out of the hands you play.
it takes some effort to win at poker, do work man
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12-08-2010, 10:39 PM
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#3009
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newbie
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Lake Zurich, IL
Posts: 21
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Re: ***Official uNL Stats Thread***
Hello, I've played a decent number of hands but am pretty much a break even player. This is me up only $300 after 33,315 hands playing 50nl rush poker (6max). If anyone is willing to help me out and analyze my game from these stats i would greatly appreciate it. If i should post all positional statistics let me know if that makes it easier to analyze. Thanks!
Hands: 33,315
VP$IP: 26.15
PFR: 19.81
CCPF: 9.38
Win%: 19.74
W$WSF: 42.37
Amount Blind: $4,189.00
Amount Won: $305.95
W$SD: 50.27
WTSD: 26.25
BB/100: .92
BB/Hour: 5.9
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12-10-2010, 10:17 AM
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#3010
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banned
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Greening, CO
Posts: 989
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Re: ***Official uNL Stats Thread***
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Originally Posted by yplay27
Hello, I've played a decent number of hands but am pretty much a break even player. This is me up only $300 after 33,315 hands playing 50nl rush poker (6max). If anyone is willing to help me out and analyze my game from these stats i would greatly appreciate it. If i should post all positional statistics let me know if that makes it easier to analyze. Thanks!
Hands: 33,315
VP$IP: 26.15
PFR: 19.81
CCPF: 9.38
Win%: 19.74
W$WSF: 42.37
Amount Blind: $4,189.00
Amount Won: $305.95
W$SD: 50.27
WTSD: 26.25
BB/100: .92
BB/Hour: 5.9
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I dont play rush but from this meagre information, I feel like your VPIP/PFR gap needs to narrow - start 3betting a lot of hands youre calling with (especially OOP) - that will help push your WTSD below 25 which is the absolute max it should be and hopefully push up the W$SD bit as well. You give very little info about your post flop, I can only guess from the low W$SD that youre again calling more than you are raising (for value or bluff) on many streets, which is not gut.
Hope that helps
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12-10-2010, 10:20 AM
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#3011
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banned
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Greening, CO
Posts: 989
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Re: ***Official uNL Stats Thread***
Now my turn
I know its not 10K, more around 3K which I think is more than enough, if you were one of my villians, for you to draw an accurate impression of my play.
All at 100NL Full Tilt 6 max. I've left out results (= winrate) because I want this to be viewed objectively, its not a brag because those things are a waste of time. Im actually not that happy with my results at the moment.
So, if you were at a table with me, which of these stats would jump out to you, what sorts of notes are you likely to have on me, and most interestingly how would you adjust your play vs me as compared to vs the average 100NL reg.
Thank you
Last edited by grinningco; 12-10-2010 at 10:26 AM.
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12-11-2010, 12:54 AM
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#3012
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Taking Ultra Strength Lines.
Posts: 5,967
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Re: ***Official uNL Stats Thread***
I would think that your 3betting range has too many bluffs, because you have a 92% fold to 4bet, which means you're either 3bet/folding TT/JJ because you don't want to get them in pre, or you're just 3betting too many junk hands but flatting your AK/AQ's. I would 4bet you everytime that I had a Kx/Ax blocker.
You're also playing more from the SB than the BB (calling and 3betting more) which I'm sure is a leak.
Your fold cb to raise seems to be pretty low considering you're cbetting 64%, meaning you're peeling way too wide vs flop raises.
Your wtsd% is also 18%. I'd triple barrel you all day on boards that run out good. It's prob not a leak since your w$sd is high, but definitely something that you should consider, maybe you're not bluffcatching in good spots or something.
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12-11-2010, 12:16 PM
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#3013
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grinder
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: UK
Posts: 422
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Re: ***Official uNL Stats Thread***
A friend of mine has really been struggling at NL50 recently. Here is his graph:
As you can see, he breaks even by winning a lot at showdown and losing it all in NSD pots. He mentioned that the last 5k hands have mainly been due to tilt with family issues etc - and when his blue line is flat, he just loses at the rate of his red line losses.
This guy clearly has some pretty big leaks - what are some of the most common leaks that might cause his red line to be so bad?
Here are his overall stats:
and stats by position:
Can you see any big glaring leaks?
A couple of things I can see:
- should 3bet more on button
- should 3bet more in BB vs SB steals
- too tight when it folds to him in CO
- probably a little too tight in general in fact
- not aggressive enough on turn and river?
- not stealing enough in SB
Anything else you guys can spot? What do you think would be the most common postflop leaks causing such a bad redline?
Cheers.
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12-11-2010, 01:20 PM
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#3014
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veteran
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 2,215
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Re: ***Official uNL Stats Thread***
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Originally Posted by Lyncho
A friend of mine has really been struggling at NL50 recently. Here is his graph:
A couple of things I can see:
- should 3bet more on button
- should 3bet more in BB vs SB steals
- too tight when it folds to him in CO
- probably a little too tight in general in fact
- not aggressive enough on turn and river?
- not stealing enough in SB
Anything else you guys can spot? What do you think would be the most common postflop leaks causing such a bad redline?
Cheers.
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Yup. Too tight. He's missing a lot of value. Funnily enough he also doesn't play back at 3bets enough. Usually it's otherway around but for 13 pfr he's folding ridiculously much to 3bets. cbet stats are also curiously low for such tight raisor.
Apart from that yeah that looks right. He needs to loosen up IP. Bit more steals from SB also helps though no need to go overboard. Button is primary steal position.
Your list seems to cover it up pretty well.
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12-11-2010, 02:16 PM
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#3015
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Taking Ultra Strength Lines.
Posts: 5,967
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Re: ***Official uNL Stats Thread***
Your friend's WTSD is super low. He's getting barrelled off every single hand, he could look for spots to bluffcatch etc. His turn aggression and river aggression is also super low, he's probably not valuebetting thinly enough on rivers and so his SD winnings doesn't > NSD losses.
I think this points out that he probably has some river leaks where he either folds the best hand too often, or doesn't get max value when he does have the best hand.
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