***Official uNL Stats Checkup Thread***

[EMc]

Post your stats here for some analysis. Please follow these guidelines.


MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A SIGNIFCANT NUMBER OF HANDS. TRY NOT TO POST WITHOUT AT LEAST 10K IM THE SAMPLE
Dont post stats in here just to brag you had a good weekend. Use BBV or microbrew.
When posting your own stats try to look around the thread and see some posters stats who hasnt been looked at. Give and take here folks.
If this thread becomes a win rate,e-peen waving, pissing contest, ill lock it and that will be the end of that.

Please repost any of hte last few questions from the previous thread, as well as any other key posts.



EMc, Thac, Gelford, UdBrky and PJo336

[mocky]

First!

[kablooey]

Hello 2p2ers,

This is my first stats post. Please forgive any n00b/donk statements. Any useful feedback is welcome.

The Stats

First impressions:

• Sample size: Enough go be significant.
• VPIP/PFR: Are approximately right.
• SB/BB Steals: Folding too much, not attempting enough However, I'm a multi-tabler (usually 4) so blind-stealing and blind defence seem to be putting myself in marginal situations that I can't give my full attention to. Should I just force myself to learn blind stealing/defence well enough to do it on autopilot, or should I just forget about it since I play so many tables? What are good blind stealing/defence numbers for FT and UB 6m NL25 tables?
• Win Rate: Decent, but much, much better after rakeback. Rakeback rocks. I feel like NL25 is crushable for 10+PTBB/100 and want to know how to get there.
• Won $ WSF, Went to SD%: Don't know what to look for.
• Won $ AT SD: ~50% seems fine to me.
• Aggression Factors: Turn AF should be higher, maybe?
• Position stats: I'm not too sure, but perhaps 17% (2% more than current) out of UTG+1 might be better. The rest seem ok, I think.

Not sure which other stats are key or what to think of it all, or if anything I've said above makes any sense.

I look forward to hearing what you have to say.

Thanks,

kablooey

PS: I tried to use the "Insert Image" function, but couldn't get it to work. I added the link instead. Let me know if it works for you... Or how to use the freggin' insert image function...

[AllIn3High]

Originally Posted by kablooey

Hello 2p2ers,

This is my first stats post. Please forgive any n00b/donk statements. Any useful feedback is welcome.


First impressions:

• Sample size: Enough go be significant.
• VPIP/PFR: Are approximately right.
• SB/BB Steals: Folding too much, not attempting enough However, I'm a multi-tabler (usually 4) so blind-stealing and blind defence seem to be putting myself in marginal situations that I can't give my full attention to. Should I just force myself to learn blind stealing/defence well enough to do it on autopilot, or should I just forget about it since I play so many tables? What are good blind stealing/defence numbers for FT and UB 6m NL25 tables?
• Win Rate: Decent, but much, much better after rakeback. Rakeback rocks. I feel like NL25 is crushable for 10+PTBB/100 and want to know how to get there.
• Won $ WSF, Went to SD%: Don't know what to look for.
• Won $ AT SD: ~50% seems fine to me.
• Aggression Factors: Turn AF should be higher, maybe?
• Position stats: I'm not too sure, but perhaps 17% (2% more than current) out of UTG+1 might be better. The rest seem ok, I think.

Not sure which other stats are key or what to think of it all, or if anything I've said above makes any sense.

I look forward to hearing what you have to say.

Thanks,

kablooey

PS: I tried to use the "Insert Image" function, but couldn't get it to work. I added the link instead. Let me know if it works for you... Or how to use the freggin' insert image function...

Stats are fine, WRG blind situations. Screw defending your blinds, looking to play more hands OOP is not a good way to improve your winrate. Stealing more on the other hand is where it's at, if you feel like 4 tables is too much to focus, cut down and start open-raising more from the CO/BTN. Look for tight blinds and/or passive players in the blinds and raise that **** up.

Also start iso-raising limpers w/ hands you'd otherwise consider too weak to play. Do this at a level below your normal level if need be, but get a lot of hands in where you're playing weaker hands than normally as this will help your winrate a lot.

Oh yeah, and in general: don't get too caught up w/ looking at stats -- as long as you're winning f em.

[asdrubale]

If you want to crush NL25, here are my suggestions:

- if the players to your left are tight, open ATC. And don't get scared when you get called, you should cbet and 2nd barrel almost always as they call mostly with pocket pairs. Instafold if you get raised though, unless until you get good enough at hand reading to understand when you can make them lay down.

- against the fish, any two high cards (by "high" I mean 8 or higher) are good IP. Isolate them, cbet and 2nd barrel. You'd be surprised how many times they call the flop and fold the turn, and if you get any piece of the flop it's very probable it will be good at showdown.

- 3bet light the regs. Squeeze them. Attack the dead money restlessly.

I started playing like this 10 days ago when I was at NL10 and now I'm rolled for NL50, approx. 15k hands. It's wildly profitable.

My stats were very similar to yours before, now I'm running at 38/35/6.5 with a winrate of 17 BB/100.

[kablooey]

Originally Posted by AllIn3High

...Stealing more on the other hand is where it's at... Look for tight blinds and/or passive players in the blinds and raise that **** up.

Also start iso-raising limpers w/ hands you'd otherwise consider too weak to play.

Originally Posted by asdrubale

If you want to crush NL25, here are my suggestions:

- if the players to your left are tight, open ATC... cbet and 2nd barrel almost always

- against the fish, any two high cards (by "high" I mean 8 or higher) are good IP. Isolate them, cbet and 2nd barrel. You'd be surprised how many times they call the flop and fold the turn...

- 3bet light the regs. Squeeze them. Attack the dead money restlessly.

Interesting.

So both of you think that the best thing for me to do right now is to play more LAG? Cool.

[kablooey]

Originally Posted by asdrubale

... I started playing like this 10 days ago when I was at NL10 and now I'm rolled for NL50, approx. 15k hands. It's wildly profitable.

My stats were very similar to yours before, now I'm running at 38/35/6.5 with a winrate of 17 BB/100.

Wow, that's unbelievable. Good for you.
Are you sure you're not just running hot, though? And which sites do you play at?

[SquirrelsUnite]

I'm sure playing a good LAG game would be more profitable but I can't help with that. Your stats are very similar to what mine were when I played 10NL.

First the gap between VPIP and PFR is unusually high. Isolate more instead of limping behind, 3bet instead of calling a raise, especially against regulars.
Your overall aggression is fine but it's too low on the turn and especially the river. Second barrel more both as a bluff and with marginal hands. It's rarely a good play to check behind the turn for pot control. Also bet/fold more on the turn and river instead of check/calling. This is opponent dependent but true in general at this level.

[AceofSpades]

anything stand out that I could be doing better or look strange?

[Pokey]

AceofSpades:

Holy smokes are you aggro on the button. 34/31? Really?? Attempting to steal the blinds is great and all, but 40% of the time seems a bit on the high side. I'd probably scale back a bit. Not MUCH, mind you, but a BIT. You have had some really good showings from the button so far, but I can't help but think some of that is variance. Maybe at $25NL you can get away with this kind of play, however....

I suggest you loosen up a bit from CO in blind-steal situations and tighten up a bit from BTN in blind-steal situations. Split the difference somewhat. You'll find that CO really isn't that vastly different from BTN for steals, and you can pad your winrate by treating them similarly.

From your W$SF and W$SD I'd say you're a pretty aggressive player. That's good -- it will serve you well in the future -- but it's probably not optimal at $25NL. Remember those skills for when you move up to $100NL, but for now consider scaling back a tad. The reason your W$SD is so small is that you're driving away all of the second-best hands before you get to showdown. A few random thoughts:

1. Consider reducing the size of your c-bets. If you make a c-bet that's usually 3/4ths-pot you'll get a bit more action, but you'll also be offering yourself really good odds on the gamble. (If you already c-bet 3/4ths, stick with it.)

2. Consider checking the turn with TPTK-type hands. A line of "bet flop, check turn, bet river" often has more equity than a line of "bet flop, bet turn, bet river" since you get table-sheriff calls on the river more often than on the turn. You don't have to protect against EVERY draw EVERY time; sometimes they just don't have it.

3. Consider checking behind on the flop if your AK hits TPTK and the board is dry. Don't do it always, obviously, but giving your opponent a chance to catch up with a second-best hand is often extremely +EV. It also gives you more folding equity on those times when you actually miss the flop entirely and check behind.

4. Slowplay once in awhile, especially against good opponents and especially when it looks like you shouldn't. If you check/call your set on a wet board your opponent will NEVER guess that you've got a set, and smart opponents will often pay you off like a freakin' slot machine on turn and river when they assume you're FOS because your obvious flush draw missed.

All of these comments are pretty speculative, but it's just what comes to mind at a glance. Remember, 10k hands is pretty small, so much of this could just be variance.

[mistermuni]

Hey all,

First of all, I'm looking for any advice about my numbers in pt -- which look too high, which too low, etc..

Also, I'd like some help interpreting my pokerev graph. Does Total winnings below sklansky bucks mean i'm running bad, or that i give up on hands too easily? Or both? Any suggestions are very welcome

-Mr Muni

[mojed]

You're first link isn't working, though it was before and I snuck a look. Your stats looked solid, a slightly wider gap between vpip and pfr% than most (19/14 or 19/13 was it?) but that's relatively insignificant. Your flop aggression factor is lower than a lot of peoples (could be a consequence of the fact your preflop aggression is lower than most), and you're w$wsf is a little low, low 40s is pretty standard for a TAG. Again this could be to do with your low preflop and consequently low flop aggression. Your w$@sd is also quite high, which combined with your low w$wsf suggests you're playing a little bit weak tight.

[mistermuni]

Thanks, let me try this again... god posting pictures is frustrating, would someone tell me how to do this?

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[guitarizt]

I can save you some time from clicking the image. Sometimes I hate when 2+2 resizes pics. I'm 17/14 over 9k hands of 100nl. I cbet 63%, yet in hu pots villain only folds 47% of the time. It's so disgusting.

I mostly play 50nl, but I'm taking shots at 100nl lately. I've been getting absolutely crushed. Mostly bleeding monies away at a rapid rate. Not even fun allin hands or anything. =[

In general, at all levels of poker, if feels like people call my cbets a lot. HM has a beta out that finally proves my hunch right. I don't know if this is normal or what, but I basically get killed in pots that don't go to sd and I do ok with pots that see a sd. I realized this some time ago, and to fix this I really throttled back on my cbets which seemed to help.

I recently decided I wanna get better and open up my game, and I think I really need to be cbetting at least 65% of the time and playing more like 22/20, 20/18 than 16/13, 17/14 and only cbetting ~62%.

<edit> I think this is actually pretty normal. I'm probably just playing poorly postflop. I mean my stats at 50nl- are very similar, but I don't hate my winrate there like I do at 100nl ofc.

[xghjase]

How does this look? (Limited access to HH atm, just the last few weeks):




edit: just noticed, why the fk am i making so much $$ utg? :S