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OESRFD 10nl 3way vs cbet and raise on flop OESRFD 10nl 3way vs cbet and raise on flop

06-20-2017 , 10:14 AM
[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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SB: $13.04 (130.4 bb)
Hero (BB): $18.95 (189.5 bb)
MP: $10.15 (101.5 bb)
CO: $10 (100 bb)
BTN: $10.32 (103.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q J
2 folds, BTN raises to $0.25, SB calls $0.20, Hero calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.75) 3 T K (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $0.40, SB raises to $1.60, Hero calls $1.60, BTN calls $1.20

No sample size worthy of comment, but on this flop I had genuine no idea the best play, I thought calling was better allowing button to come along but wasn't sure what do you think?

I think SB range is sets/2pairs/NUTFD gii vs that range

Equity Win Tie
CO 43.60% 43.60% 0.00% TT, 33, A9s-A2s, KTs, KTo
BU 56.40% 56.40% 0.00% QcJc

Without the nutfd im 47% vs 52%

That being said what part of my range is cold raising or shoving vs what has happened here? TT/KT/33 and semi-bluff AQcc AJcc QJcc J9cc Q9cc, so think I call more often here than raise

Spoiler:
Turn: ($5.55) J (3 players)
SB bets $2.70, Hero calls $2.70, BTN folds
Turn same thing call/raise/fold
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06-20-2017 , 10:16 AM
Pretty std. not sure what raising would accomplish...


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06-20-2017 , 10:16 AM
I don't mind just getting it in OTF, otherwise we might not realise all of our equity. Even vs a set we have 42% equity.
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06-20-2017 , 10:18 AM
Easiest flop jam of your life imo

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06-20-2017 , 10:19 AM
You are ahead of sets and currently have Q high. Any cards that complete your FD or SD might kill your action so GII now while ahead.

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06-20-2017 , 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Rikk
You are ahead of sets and currently have Q high. Any cards that complete your FD or SD might kill your action so GII now while ahead.

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Not ahead but we have high equity vs sets.
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06-20-2017 , 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Karrlitos1
Not ahead but we have high equity vs sets.
Right you are! Just did the calc and got 42%. Not sure why but I thought OESFDs generally had over 50% equity vs sets.

Still think jam is good though, especially with even the smallest amount of FE.
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06-21-2017 , 08:32 AM
I might lead this flop and hope to get raised. Jamming is sort of awkward though given the stack sizes, isn't it?
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06-21-2017 , 08:35 AM
noone squeezing preflop?
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06-21-2017 , 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by smetiardopici
noone squeezing preflop?
I would squeeze but I think calling with some frequency is fine.
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06-21-2017 , 07:23 PM
Squeezing pre is preferable. Calling is obviously fine as well.

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Equity Win Tie
CO 43.60% 43.60% 0.00% TT, 33, A9s-A2s, KTs, KTo
BU 56.40% 56.40% 0.00% QcJc
I just want to point out that with A9s-A2s, you forgot to specify what suit (ie: entering "Ac2c, Ac3c" etc.). Your actual equity vs. the nfd/2p/sets is 45.18 so you actually only lose 2% when you get rid of the fds.

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but on this flop I had genuine no idea the best play, I thought calling was better allowing button to come along but wasn't sure what do you think?
That's fine thinking. Raising isn't bad either. I'd also lead this flop a non-0% of the time.

re: spoiler question: now that we picked up a pair, there's no reason to raise. I don't think turn is even close.
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06-21-2017 , 07:50 PM
i think as played is fine. I think this is a spot that it would be ok to bet the flop yourself also.
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06-22-2017 , 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Flpmethntsdlr
I might lead this flop and hope to get raised. Jamming is sort of awkward though given the stack sizes, isn't it?
What part of range leads this flop multi in the middle? I don't like the idea of leading flop but maybe someone else tells me better.

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noone squeezing preflop?
Yeah thought about it but tend to flat with unknown and uncertainties

Yeah just one of those where we are happy to gii if we do but how to play around before that is the Q.

Thanks for your responses.

I river the club he checked I bet 3/4 he called with set
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06-22-2017 , 01:09 PM
Not all the time, but, 33, QcJc, QhJh. I rarely lead, but when I do the intent is to GII with 4/5 of those combos. Vs tend to go a little crazy when they're bet into.

Didn't see the spoiler. AP, definitely flatting turn.
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