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nl5 zoom - QQ river call or fold? nl5 zoom - QQ river call or fold?

09-29-2014 , 05:01 PM
villain is 23/19 with 5% 3bet over 313 hands, 10% 3bet from sb so far. I would usually 4bet this but I don't mind calling with position either since he seems to be 3betting the blinds a fair bit.


SB: $5.53 (110.6 bb)
Hero (BB): $7.96 (159.2 bb)
UTG: $5.59 (111.8 bb)
MP: $21.04 (420.8 bb)
CO: $1.34 (26.8 bb)
BTN: $5.07 (101.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q Q
3 folds, BTN raises to $0.15, SB raises to $0.50, Hero calls $0.45, BTN folds

Flop: ($1.15) T 7 4 (2 players)
SB bets $0.75, Hero calls $0.75

Turn: ($2.65) 8 (2 players)
SB bets $1.27, Hero calls $1.27

River: ($5.19) 2 (2 players)
SB shoves, Hero? getting ~3/1 odds.

I am not really concerned until the river, flop and turn bets could be JJ even a strong T. Set and flush is possible, but I dont think a straight and of course AA/KK are very possible.

Or did I just mess up by not 4betting pre?
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10-01-2014 , 12:04 PM
no replies... hehe either its really obvious or really not...
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10-01-2014 , 07:09 PM
4bet pre unless btn is a fish, call as played
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10-01-2014 , 07:56 PM
4b pre u r in RELATIVE position not ip, ap insta call river
i would rather shipping turn ap
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10-01-2014 , 08:15 PM
PRE: Definitely 4B for value.

FLOP & TURN: Fine

RIV: Im quite nitty in spots like this, I dont think a 23/19 player would B this river unless they had a made hand. What hand do you beat? JJ? Even JJ would X either the turn or river.
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10-02-2014 , 12:33 AM
People find their way to a shove on this type of board all the time. They're thinking "ok I have Ah he's probably having an overpair at best a 3-barrel here would get him off at least that, I can have plenty of flushes in my range ....."
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10-02-2014 , 04:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cho84eva
4b pre u r in RELATIVE position not ip, ap insta call river
i would rather shipping turn ap
if you ship turn only better hands will call IMO
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10-02-2014 , 06:00 AM
As played I think you can even 3bet flop...
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10-02-2014 , 06:13 AM
4bet this preflop.

As played I think villains at this stake won't have junk enough. Some draws got there as well which definitely doesn't help.
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