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08-08-2011 , 08:48 PM

javamaster12

newbie

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 37

***** Hand History for Game 10766401892 *****
$4 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, August 08, 19:46:06 EDT 2011
Table Table 202778 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 9/9
Seat 5: Macovega ( $4 USD )
Seat 4: SeaDog0423 ( $8.67 USD )
Seat 8: Tobiz89 ( $1.30 USD )
Seat 3: c4rdz247 ( $3.94 USD )
Seat 9: grimsey888 ( $4.67 USD )
Seat 6: javamaster12 ( $1.54 USD )
Seat 1: liliay898 ( $3.99 USD )
Seat 7: rockcityman8 ( $6.41 USD )
Seat 2: winner32ru ( $4.34 USD )
liliay898 posts small blind [$0.02 USD].
winner32ru posts big blind [$0.04 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to javamaster12 [ Ad Ah ]
c4rdz247 folds
SeaDog0423 folds
Macovega folds
javamaster12 raises [$0.12 USD]
rockcityman8 folds
Tobiz89 folds
grimsey888 calls [$0.12 USD]
liliay898 calls [$0.10 USD]
winner32ru folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6h, 6c, 9d ]
liliay898 bets [$0.28 USD]
javamaster12 is all-In [$1.42 USD]
grimsey888 folds
liliay898 calls [$1.14 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6s ]
** Dealing River ** [ Kd ]
liliay898 shows [ 9s, 9h ]a full house, Nines full of Sixes.
javamaster12 doesn't show [ Ad, Ah ]a full house, Sixes full of Aces.
liliay898 wins $3.08 USD from the main pot with a full house, Nines full of Sixes.

***** Hand History for Game 10766019451 *****
$4 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, August 08, 18:09:26 EDT 2011
Table Table 202778 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 9/9
Seat 8: Arturek12345 ( $3.65 USD )
Seat 5: TimPK ( $4.07 USD )
Seat 1: buuzy ( $3.46 USD )
Seat 2: druskane ( $5.36 USD )
Seat 9: grimsey888 ( $4.38 USD )
Seat 3: infernalzzz ( $2.81 USD )
Seat 7: javamaster12 ( $1.60 USD )
Seat 4: slevink23 ( $4.06 USD )
Seat 6: tu4ka88999 ( $1.52 USD )
infernalzzz posts small blind [$0.02 USD].
slevink23 posts big blind [$0.04 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to javamaster12 [ Ad Ac ]
TimPK folds
tu4ka88999 folds
javamaster12 raises [$0.12 USD]
Arturek12345 folds
grimsey888 calls [$0.12 USD]
buuzy folds
druskane folds
infernalzzz folds
slevink23 folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ Kd, Qh, Qs ]
javamaster12 bets [$0.24 USD]
grimsey888 calls [$0.24 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5s ]
javamaster12 is all-In [$1.24 USD]
grimsey888 calls [$1.24 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ 3c ]
javamaster12 shows [ Ad, Ac ]two pairs, Aces and Queens.
grimsey888 shows [ Kc, Qd ]a full house, Queens full of Kings.
grimsey888 wins $3.10 USD from the main pot with a full house, Queens full of Kings.
Game #10766033399 starts.

Is this ok 2push ~40bb stack w/ overpair on a paired board, or something wrong w/ this line ? ? ty

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08-09-2011 , 02:00 AM

BlackFr1day

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 1,629

Lets convert this first of all

Party, $0.02/$0.04 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #10202052

MP1: $4 (100 bb)
UTG+2: $8.67 (216.8 bb)
CO: $1.30 (32.5 bb)
UTG+1: $3.94 (98.5 bb)
BTN: $4.67 (116.8 bb)
Hero (MP2): $1.54 (38.5 bb)
SB: $3.99 (99.8 bb)
MP3: $6.41 (160.3 bb)
BB: $4.34 (108.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A

3 folds, Hero raises to $0.12, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.12, SB calls $0.10, BB folds

Flop: ($0.40) 6

(3 players)
SB bets $0.28, Hero raises to $1.42 and is all-in, BTN folds, SB calls $1.14

Turn: ($3.24) 6

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($3.24) K

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

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Party, $0.02/$0.04 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #10202062

MP2: $3.65 (91.3 bb)
UTG+1: $4.07 (101.8 bb)
CO: $3.46 (86.5 bb)
BTN: $5.36 (134 bb)
MP3: $4.38 (109.5 bb)
SB: $2.81 (70.3 bb)
Hero (MP1): $1.60 (40 bb)
BB: $4.06 (101.5 bb)
UTG+2: $1.52 (38 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A

2 folds, Hero raises to $0.12, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $0.12, 4 folds

Flop: ($0.30) K

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.24, MP3 calls $0.24

Turn: ($0.78) 5

(2 players)
Hero bets $1.24 and is all-in, MP3 calls $1.24

River: ($3.26) 3

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

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08-09-2011 , 02:03 AM

BlackFr1day

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 1,629

Are you shortstacking on purpose?

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08-09-2011 , 07:08 AM

javamaster12

newbie

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 37

No. It's mss (middle stack strategy). 40bb stack, very tight pre-flop ranges, and just a bit post-flop moves. So the goal of mss is push ur stack pre-flop, or on the flop, w/ the strongest hand.

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08-09-2011 , 08:18 AM

ben-rhyno

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Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 457

I think this means he is doing it on purpose^

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08-09-2011 , 09:05 AM

MaxVariance

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 294

The shorties are dead, now come the "middies"...

@ OP:
Learn how to play against different villains. There is no general rule, if you have to stackoff with an overpair on a paired board with 40bb, it depends...

But I guess that you won't learn so much with midstacking...

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08-09-2011 , 09:09 AM

javamaster12

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Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 37

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Originally Posted by MaxVariance

yeah, i won't learn so much, but it's perfect to get a lot of bonuses w/ minimal risk. and it's good for me for a while.

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08-09-2011 , 09:23 AM

MaxVariance

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Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 294

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Originally Posted by javamaster12

yeah, i won't learn so much, but it's perfect to get a lot of bonuses w/ minimal risk. and it's good for me for a while.

It was no offense, if it is good for you, do it.

In this two hands without reads there were nothing you could do I think. Villain flopped a monster and stacked you.

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08-09-2011 , 09:26 AM

javamaster12

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Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 37

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Originally Posted by MaxVariance

It was no offense, if it is good for you, do it.

In this two hands without reads there were nothing you could do I think. Villain flopped a monster and stacked you.

i see, thank u. i just wanted to somebody make me sure.

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08-09-2011 , 09:37 AM

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Double1Gappr

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Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 30

I just dont get it why youre playing so short and why you are playing like this.
You hope to get it all in asap but you can only win $1.60 .... Just buy in for 100bb or more if possible and go play normal and win some money. Just buying in for little hope to stack off with every good hand issnt going to work. Players are becoming better and are not going to stack off with air post and pre flop. Just go play normal son !!

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08-10-2011 , 02:39 AM

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MaxVariance

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 294

Yes, time has changed. A few years ago it was so easy to make money with shortstacking. But if you want make money today, you need more than a starthandchart... The problem with that midstacking is that you don't learn enough, on NL25 you will be the fish...

And OP:
This is the 6max forum. Better post in fullring, maybe there you meet some other midstackers.

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