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NL25 zoom AQ facing 4bet oop? NL25 zoom AQ facing 4bet oop?

10-26-2016 , 07:39 AM
Is it ok to take that line?

Maybe will bluff river to make JJ/QQ fold, get no info on villain

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100.52 BB (VPIP: 24.38, PFR: 18.30, 3Bet Preflop: 7.59, Hands: 1,520)
Hero (SB): 192.48 BB
BB: 103.48 BB
UTG: 50.16 BB (VPIP: 18.75, PFR: 10.42, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 48)
MP: 284.56 BB
CO: 94.6 BB

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A Q

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.48 BB, Hero raises to 10 BB, BB raises to 20.8 BB, fold, Hero calls 10.8 BB

Flop: (44.08 BB, 2 players) K 9 2
Hero checks, BB bets 16 BB, Hero calls 16 BB

Turn: (76.08 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero checks, BB bets 66.68 BB and is all-in, fold

BB wins 72.64 BB
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10-26-2016 , 09:12 AM
You probably should fold PF. Remember to omit the results next time.
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10-26-2016 , 09:36 AM
Unless we have some read IDK how we can fold. So cheap. Like, if we put him on AK we have the equity to call. A king on the flop means any value 4-bet now beats you, so it just comes down to determining how often he 4-bet bluffs and how often he follows through like this on the flop. On the turn, even if he is bluffing a lot, you pretty much can't call. Terrible price. You are also blocking the Ax flush draw which might be his most likely bluffing hand.

Also don't listen to me I'm a spewmonkey
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10-26-2016 , 10:35 AM
Fold pre. Fold flop.

Played it poor.
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10-26-2016 , 10:49 AM
vs aggro reg, i am 5bet calling pre. AQo is a good bluff combo with blockers. Calling a 4bet oop with AQo doesnt seem like a good idea. He is never 4betting with AJ.
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10-26-2016 , 12:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by maglame
Unless we have some read IDK how we can fold. So cheap. Like, if we put him on AK we have the equity to call. A king on the flop means any value 4-bet now beats you, so it just comes down to determining how often he 4-bet bluffs and how often he follows through like this on the flop. On the turn, even if he is bluffing a lot, you pretty much can't call. Terrible price. You are also blocking the Ax flush draw which might be his most likely bluffing hand.

Also don't listen to me I'm a spewmonkey
I think you need to put him on the range of hands not one hand
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10-26-2016 , 12:23 PM
Fold flop.
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10-26-2016 , 12:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Haizemberg93
I think you need to put him on the range of hands not one hand
You are missing my point. The AK was to illustrate how cheap calling is. As you can see from the rest of my post I am at least considering a range of hands.
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10-26-2016 , 12:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by maglame
You are missing my point. The AK was to illustrate how cheap calling is. As you can see from the rest of my post I am at least considering a range of hands.
ahaa...Still if you hit A on flop you cant fold in less then 2 SPR pot and you have a lot of revers imp odds because he will show up with AK in that case a lot and you are not that happy when you hit Q and money goes in.Right?
Hand dosnt end after you call 4bet so you must consider post flop action
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10-26-2016 , 01:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Haizemberg93
ahaa...Still if you hit A on flop you cant fold in less then 2 SPR pot and you have a lot of revers imp odds because he will show up with AK in that case a lot and you are not that happy when you hit Q and money goes in.Right?
Hand dosnt end after you call 4bet so you must consider post flop action
I mean if we hit an ace we are happy, but depending on the action we might find a fold sometimes postflop when we don't.

Look. When he 4-bets small like this you might be able to construct a strategy where calling OOP is a part of it, and AQ is a good candidate for hands that go into that calling range. Otherwise you can play fold or raise, in this case stacking off with AQ. I just have a hard time convincing myself I'm ever folding AQ SB vs BTN against anything but the most exploitable of opponents.
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