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Nl2: Taff River Decision: Two Pair vs. ??? Nl2: Taff River Decision: Two Pair vs. ???

12-02-2016 , 06:08 PM
Hey guys,

One big hand I played during todays session was the following:


    Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37533295

    BTN: $3.57 (178.5 bb)
    Hero (SB): $2 (100 bb)
    BB: $1.90 (95 bb)
    UTG: $2.22 (111 bb)
    MP: $2.37 (118.5 bb)
    CO: $1.30 (65 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with A J
    4 folds, Hero raises to $0.06, BB calls $0.04

    Flop: ($0.12) 3 A J (2 players)
    Hero bets $0.06, BB raises to $0.18, Hero calls $0.12

    Turn: ($0.48) 8 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BB bets $0.32, Hero calls $0.32

    River: ($1.12) 5 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BB bets $0.76, Hero folds

    Spoiler:
    Results: $1.12 pot ($0.04 rake)
    Final Board: 3 A J 8 5
    Hero mucked A J and lost (-$0.56 net)
    BB mucked and won $1.08 ($0.52 net)



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    Really curious what you think about the way I played it and If you had called the river?

    Will just add some thoughts I had during the hand:
    First of all it is a completely unknown player to me, never played a single hand against him before.

    I am really asking myself with which cards is he reraising me on the flop and there are basically not that many hands:
    - He could have pockets: jacks or aces which is really really unlikely (especially pocket jacks) or pocket threes
    - He could have flopped two pair (AJ or A3, do not believe he called me preflop with J3)
    - He could have some straight draw

    Decided to call the reraise on the flop simply because I am really strong, not that many draws out there and really only one set in his range (which is the set of threes).

    On the turn completely unimportant card, Checking and facing another raise from the BB which does not curtail any of his potential hands he reraised me on the flop.
    I decided to call him again showing: I am strong in this situation.

    It all comes down to the river, no draw found its target and he is firing again.
    The interesting question for me is: Would he does this if he had something like KQ or even Two Pair?
    I do not think so, I really showed I am strong especially on the flop but also on the turn-

    Really looking for any help/improvements for this hand.
    Thought a long time about it and really not sure how I could have played it different to find out how strong he really is?

    Thank you in advance!
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    12-02-2016 , 06:14 PM
    How did you fold?! Jam river, we lose to 33 that's it. NH if he has it.
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    12-02-2016 , 06:18 PM
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    Originally Posted by samcx
    How did you fold?! Jam river, we lose to 33 that's it. NH if he has it.
    Probably lack of experience leaded to a fold.
    I just had the feeling he has to have the 33:
    I showed so much strongness during the hand, he should have realized I am strong here and I really do not get the point why he might have started to bluff a dry flop like that (which is the main reason I folded).
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    12-02-2016 , 06:28 PM
    We correctly just flat his flop raise to keep his bluffs in and the board bricks out so we can't fold anywhere, you can't just put a player on one hand - it's about putting people on a range of possible hands and in this case he still has bluffs (guys are bad) and might even be betting worse for value.

    I'm just shoving river on this super safe run out because it's not for much more and he's not brought in full and he shouldn't really raise this dry flop in position with anything so is clearly not a great player so don't see him folding anything that isn't total air such as an ace, A3, J3s or a turned/rivered two pair. We expect him to 3b AA/JJ pre so we only really lose to 33 which we would have got stacked by anyway and it's a cooler which we can't do anything about.
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    12-02-2016 , 06:33 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by samcx
    We correctly just flat his flop raise to keep his bluffs in and the board bricks out so we can't fold anywhere, you can't just put a player on one hand - it's about putting people on a range of possible hands and in this case he has loads of bluffs and might even be betting worse for value.

    I'm just shoving river on this super safe run out because it's not for much more and he's not brought in full and he shouldn't really raise this dry flop in position with anything so is clearly not a great player so don't see him folding anything that isn't total air such as an ace, A3, J3s or a turned/rivered two pair. We expect him to 3b AA/JJ pre so we only really lose to 33 which we would have got stacked by anyway.
    Thank you for your help!

    I was probably to much scared in that situation especially because of the bet on the river but you are right, he might even bet worser hands for value like A3, J3 or A8 and as not even the streight draw found its target he might have some bluffs in his range so calling/pushing would have been way better.
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