BTN: $29.63
Hero (SB): $17.06
BB: $12.40
UTG: $20.04
MP: $14.02
CO: $13.90

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with 7 A
2 folds, CO raises to $0.20, BTN calls $0.20, Hero calls $0.15, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.70) A 9 9 (3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, BTN bets $0.33, Hero calls $0.33, CO raises to $0.66, BTN folds, Hero calls $0.33

Turn: ($2.35) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $2.24

I think he never bluffs here after min raising MW pot otf and then full pot bet ott.So he may have 9x AA or Ax for a split pot.Right ?

If he got more than Ax is a cooler.

Easy fold


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Fold flop to minraise. If u call the flop u pretty much have to call the turn as a 9 is the best card u could hope for besides a A. If u fold this turn what turns are u continuing on? Did u call hoping for an A or for him to give up with bluffs on the turn(Which he probably never has and if he did he usually isnt going to give up)? What was your thought process in the turn besides that u are getting great pot odds?

It' s seem sick but I fold OTF, oppo doesn' t rappresent any worse combo of our range and the board paired is not a good notice

Why we must call turn if we call flop?
I getting grate odds there is chances I have the best hand and my range have most 9x so I can rep that later if there is some decent chance for that.I think he give up all bluffs on this turn if he have any.

He won't have any bluffs if he minraise flop mw. Because of that he will bet every time on the turn with a 9 or a big A. If u think he can have bluffs here then u definitely have to call turn shove because u are only beat by AA, A9, 89s, 9Ts which is 5 combos and You split most of the time


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squeeze pre?

I'm snap folding flop. As played, I'm calling this turn.

Because it's one of the two turns you should be continuing with a weak ace.

You are getting great odds, but...

There's almost no chance you have the best hand. Multiway min check/raise with a caller behind on an extremely dry board is strictly for value. Villain knows you're never folding to that sizing.

edit: +1 squeeze pre

if we sqz and let's say only this weird CO player remains in the pot - on the same runout do we check/call flop get it in turn ?

i often find myself dominated on these A high sqz pots

thx !

Before making a decision as to whether you are going to call the flop, you should have a fairly solid line that you intend to take against further aggression on specific turns.
It's not actually the flop call that is the mistake (Although I would advise against this play), it's to then fold to further aggression on this exact turn card - taking this line on this run-out is a mistake. If you disagree, then answer this. What hands is any competent V min-raising on the flop into a multi-way pot, and not continuing to bet on the turn with? Or for that matter, what hand is V min-raising that is behind our hand? One of the few turn cards that can improve our hand falls (one which counteracts a decent percentage of V's range, that was beating us, and is now splitting with us), and we fold?
You should only ever really be taking two lines here, on this run-out, these lines being:
A) call down to the river to chop the pot or catch a very weird bluff (A line that I would not typically advise)
B) fold the flop (the better play, readless imo).

So yes, this is a drawn-out way of explaining why a fold OTF would be a better play (IMO), and that this line is not the most optimal one you can take.
For the record, I agree that by the turn, readless, you're never ahead, and calling to chop the pot is usually not the best play either (especially when there is still one betting round to come).
To answer your question, the range you applied V is also correct (qauds, FH's for a split pot, and occasionally AA for the better FH - although very, very rarely).

^^+1^^

Sqz is ok play but not sure why we want to sqz with hand that is good enough to call and nl10 dont fold that much against 3bets IP.

Maybe you should fold otf to min raise but you give V great chance to exploit you and we will win hand some % of thime which is lcose to 13 % ,I mean we hit an A about 8% of the time and we have some imp odds when we hit.Imo this theory if you call flop you must call the turn and river is stupid,is not like his actionson later streets dont give us any information.In this situation calling is worst option ott you call to split pot or to lose to his nutted hands no chance to win.So I need to call this bet and river bet which in total will be something like 60+BB to win 11 BB.

Sometimes when an A falls u still split. If he has a 9 he is not going to pay us off when an A falls. His turn bet gives us 0 info as he is likely to continue his aggression with everything he minraises otf.
If calling one of the best turns for your hand when he continues betting is so terrible then calling the flop raise is definitely a mistake.

so you think if A falls ott.I c he check beck ,then we lead river with 40-55% of pot bet and he fold 9x,come on ....

How is 1 half pot bet good implied odds?
So u justify calling flop because 8% of the time when we improve we get a 50% pot call out of him.

Well we need 13 % of equity to call we have 8 % of chances to hit an A so we dont need much imp odds to make call and if we add some cases when we split and win we can make a call.

Don't sqz pre. Better hands than this to do it with.

Turn is an easy fold. Flop is a fold too.

Not enough direct equity
No implied odds
Folding everytime an A doesnt flop
Splitting some of the time when an A flops
When an A flops still losing to 99

OK...You obv care more about wining the argument then about poker.You win you are right totally :P

I'm trying to prove to u that u don't have to call the flop minraise. There is no reason to. It is clearly -ev


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Well if you trying to prove then do the EV equation...

Calculating ev using the formula assumes u get to realise all of your equity so it's better used for all in situations which u won't be able to do without calling another bet.
I may be wrong about the flop but I'm trying to get across my reasons for folding the flop and also understand your reasons for calling. It is a interesting spot and depends a lot on villain and if I was in the same spot I would have probably played it the same so I would like to figure out just what to do in future

SQZ pre is better imo, all options are close.

SQZ > CALL = FOLD

OTF i donk $0.45

Hero calls $0.33> Spew

AP insta stack off ott to chop if he has something better good for him GG

'' NL10 ZOOM Is folding FH ott option ? '' > IMO No

GLGL

Well you can you need to assume that you will realise some % of your equity but you must calculate split pots bla bla bla it can get little bit complicated
But we can assume V do this for what ever reason 5 % with air plus our 8 % chances we hit A we have a call plus some chances we sometimes get V to fold split or maybe even bigger A this can be plus EV.On the end call can be -3bb max if V only do this with 99 AA ,but more realistically is between -1bb to +1bb and I dont care about 1 or even 3 bb,but call ott and otr can be huge -EV like -70BB or who knows but it can not be bigger then +11BB because we can only split the pot