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06-22-2017 , 02:04 PM
Villain multiple tables. Seems to be a little on the loose side, but not out of control.

30/25/6.0AF over 83 hands

Looking for advice on all three streets:
1)I like calling and keep the pot smaller, leaving us more opportunities to semi bluff post flop. Any merit to 3 betting this min open?
2) I put a raise in here because I felt the board was fairly wet and wanted to deny equity.
3) Again on turn placing bet for value/deny equity.
4) Do you check back river with flushes getting there? His line seems very strong with the check raise AI.

SB: $9.10 (91 bb)
BB: $13.15 (131.5 bb)
MP: $10 (100 bb)
CO: $12.36 (123.6 bb)
Hero (BTN): $10.15 (101.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with A 7
MP raises to $0.20, CO folds, Hero calls $0.20, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.55) 9 7 7 (2 players)
MP bets $0.26, Hero raises to $0.70, MP calls $0.44

Turn: ($1.95) K (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $1.39, MP calls $1.39

River: ($4.73) 3 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $2.25, MP raises to $7.71 and is all-in, [color="grey"]Hero ???
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06-22-2017 , 02:11 PM
Raise flop bigger imo.

Fold river too imo

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06-22-2017 , 02:25 PM
Flat pre seems questionable. Flop and turn are standard. I'd check the river without reads. After villain calls the flop raise and calls the turn, I'd imagine a significant % of his range is weighted towards flush draws and boats.

As played, we also have a pretty strong range, but I'd still have a hard time folding this.
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06-22-2017 , 02:33 PM
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I like calling and keep the pot smaller, leaving us more opportunities to semi bluff post flop
You could also "semi bluff" preflop and take down the pot
Flatting will make money though.

I probably just call flop but raising is fine.

Betting river is probably a mistake, fold AP.
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06-22-2017 , 02:38 PM
I like the hand as played up until river, which I agree is too thin to vbet against a reasonably competent villain. Even if he's good enough to turn exactly AA with the ace of clubs into a bluff here, this looks like a fold as played
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06-22-2017 , 02:45 PM
I do not think turning AA into bluff would be good from villain. Pretty terrible actually.
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06-22-2017 , 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by mrno1324
You could also "semi bluff" preflop and take down the pot
Flatting will make money though.
This. Either way should make money. The only question is which one makes more.
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06-22-2017 , 02:57 PM
Standard call pre? I must play too tight facing opens.
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06-22-2017 , 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by whitemares
Standard call pre? I must play too tight facing opens.
I'd 3bet every time fwiw. Just think the min open and being on the button adds to the w/e factor.
That said with rake plus the fact that micro population crumbles when faced with a 3b OOP raising is almost definitely better.
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06-22-2017 , 03:04 PM
Thanks for the feedback guys, good stuff. By semi bluffing pre-flop, do you mean 3betting?

I am not sure which is the best line semi bluffing preflop or flatting but something that I dont feel is discussed enough in these forums is which action suits your play style better. There is more than one way to skin a cat and make money in poker. Even if one line is superior in than the other (in this spot its probably close), I feel its best to go with the one the player feels most comfortable with. My 2cents.
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06-22-2017 , 03:05 PM
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Standard call pre? I must play too tight facing opens.
The reasons I had for playing this is villain is loose-ish. We have ultimate position with the button and suited aces counterfeit many other flushes and we can also make top trips.

Last edited by KatyPurry; 06-22-2017 at 03:15 PM.
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06-22-2017 , 03:06 PM
Yes, but I used semi bluff with quotation marks. It's not standard to call pre flop raises semi bluffs.
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06-22-2017 , 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by mrno1324
Yes, but I used semi bluff with quotation marks. It's not standard to call pre flop raises semi bluffs.
Alright, just makign sure
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06-22-2017 , 03:33 PM
Think 3bet pre is going to be a better an option than calling here as it gives you control of the hand.
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06-22-2017 , 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by K40cheddar
Think 3bet pre is going to be a better an option than calling here as it gives you control of the hand.
Okay if one of the blinds was a fish, would this change anything? This wasn't the case in this hand, both blinds had taggish stats.
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06-22-2017 , 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by mrno1324
Betting river is probably a mistake, fold AP.
I'd still nearly always bet/fold it at 10nl without some history.
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06-22-2017 , 08:39 PM
I don't mind a 3bet pre or the flat.

On the flop the raise could be slightly bigger.

On the turn sizing was fine.

As played on the river I feel like you have to check it back. Villain has no 7s in his range except 77 which we block obviously. The only boats he has are 9's or kings. But his range consists of so many flush draws that completed that it doesn't seem like a profitable spot to bet. Any crazy pairs that got to the river aren't calling our 3rd barrel.
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