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NL10 - AA on K76tt versus passive fish NL10 - AA on K76tt versus passive fish

10-17-2013 , 05:14 AM
PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: $11.49 (VPIP: 23.36, PFR: 10.48, 3Bet Preflop: 2.44, Hands: 110)
CO: $8.18 (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 15.00, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 21)
Hero (BTN): $10.62
SB: $10.12 (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 9.43, 3Bet Preflop: 0.83, Hands: 327)
BB: $10.25 (VPIP: 35.42, PFR: 22.92, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 49)
UTG: $12.72 (VPIP: 22.71, PFR: 17.47, 3Bet Preflop: 8.19, Hands: 470)

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has A A

fold, MP raises to $0.35, fold, Hero raises to $1.05, fold, fold, MP calls $0.70

Flop: ($2.25, 2 players) K 6 7
MP bets $1.10, Hero raises to $2.95, MP raises to $10.44 and is all-in, Hero calls $6.62 and is all-in
Apologies if this hand is "standard" to you guys. Just want to check that my line is ok/good here please? Villain is generally passive so not sure he will donk/3b many draws, for sure he might donk them but don't think he will jam.
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10-17-2013 , 05:21 AM
It's fine, sorry villain had 77.
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10-17-2013 , 05:49 AM
wp
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10-17-2013 , 05:54 AM
Might call flop, but raising is fine aswell. If he has a set you would've gotten stacked anyway so just laugh at him for playing bad and make a note.
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10-17-2013 , 06:32 AM
Flop is a call. His range is likely 2p+ there, perhaps combo draw (98cc) and you don't fare well. so raising is basically spew, you are raising with 28% equity. It's even worse that once he ships you have breakeven odds for calling it off. If we put AXcc and AK in his range then your raise becomes breakeven, which is nicer but calling is much higher EV.

If you had a read that he donks TP then raising becomes better but without that read just call, much better for you. Even if you add AK to his donking range you're still not good enough to raise, he has to donk KQ and lower for it to work which I'm not sure you'll see from a passive fish in a 3bet pot.

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If he has a set you would've gotten stacked anyway
What neok said is certainly true a % of the time but we don't know how he'll bet, passive fish types likes to slow play a lot, he probably shuts down or bets low on a club if he didn't hit a flush or bets big when he does hit it and you can safely fold at that point. In the end you'll end up saving $$$ that you lose by raising.
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10-17-2013 , 06:58 AM
I play same as you and think it's best.
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10-17-2013 , 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by samcx
It's fine, sorry villain had 77.
[ ] 77
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10-17-2013 , 08:43 AM
I think we can give him a range of AK, ATcc-AJcc, 66, 77
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10-17-2013 , 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by ComplexP
Flop is a call. His range is likely 2p+ there, perhaps combo draw (98cc) and you don't fare well.
What are you on? A fish donks 1/2p in a 3bp on a drawy board and his range is obviously 2p or 98cc?! This is the easiest value raise of all time, to set up a turn shove. The only arguments for calling would be would be if his range is air weighted but I don't see that on this board, and I don't wanna let him draw for that price.

Given your "range" of villains though we should snap fold to his donk bet probably.
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10-17-2013 , 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ComplexP
so raising is basically spew
lol

I think I would flat the 3 combos with Ac in (and call down) and raise/call the other 3 OTF.
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10-17-2013 , 09:03 AM
The more passive he is, the better raising
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10-17-2013 , 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by samcx
What are you on? A fish donks 1/2p in a 3bp on a drawy board and his range is obviously 2p or 98cc?! This is the easiest value raise of all time, to set up a turn shove. The only arguments for calling would be would be if his range is air weighted but I don't see that on this board, and I don't wanna let him draw for that price.

Given your "range" of villains though we should snap fold to his donk bet probably.
Passive fish, according to OP
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10-18-2013 , 02:48 AM
Villian does not donk sets in 3bet pots alot.. they will go for the x/r alot alot more!

Also if he has a draw i dont think you will donk a K high board(since we can easily have hit that K)

We cant play it much different with this SPR imo.. if he has us beat so be it..
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