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06-22-2017 , 05:36 AM
PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 44.3 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
SB: 50 BB (VPIP: 70.00, PFR: 40.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
BB: 122.4 BB (VPIP: 25.98, PFR: 21.15, 3Bet Preflop: 14.13, Hands: 447)
UTG: 189.2 BB (VPIP: 37.96, PFR: 22.22, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 110)
MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 18)
Hero (CO): 193.2 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 6 6

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.8 BB, fold, fold, BB raises to 11 BB, Hero calls 8.2 BB

Flop: (22.5 BB, 2 players) 4 9 8
BB bets 7.1 BB, Hero calls 7.1 BB

Turn: (36.7 BB, 2 players) 2
BB bets 23 BB, Hero raises to 175.1 BB and is all-in, fold

We have 44 88 99 89s for value so that's 11 combos. We need about 4 combos bluff for him to be indifferent to calling. However I feel the population overfold JJ+ here so how wide should we be shoving here? We can definitely make the case for shoving 67s & JTs, how about 66 and 77? Spew or nah?
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06-22-2017 , 05:47 AM
How about not having a shoving range OTT? lol, I guess the texture is wet enough that you can consider building a raising range OTT, although I still prefer not too (being IP and all). If I did have a raising range OTT, 66 and 77 would not be a part of it. I'm not going to start developing a raising range OTT because I don't have one, and don't particularly like having one. That being said CO vs BB, on a 2-tone, fairly connected board/turn, we don't need to start turning many pairs+ into bluffs (we can have plenty of combo's of draws we can consider using to balance).

FWIW I don't like having a shoving range OTT as we are IP, in a spot where our value hands (2-pair/sets) are far enough ahead of his value betting range, that there is no need to start raising value hands. Also the hands we would consider turning into bluff raises OTT (draws) can take rivers w/ decent implied odds, again, IP, and can then bluff some rivers vs weak river lines. This all points to the fact that having a raising range OTT is for lack of a better word ineffective in comparison to not having one (IMO!)

Last edited by Fish-And-Chips; 06-22-2017 at 05:53 AM.
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06-22-2017 , 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by siziono
However I feel the population overfold JJ+ here so how wide should we be shoving here? We can definitely make the case for shoving 67s & JTs, how about 66 and 77? Spew or nah?
I know you're asking but I think you're good enough to figure this out on your own. How does 66/77 fair vs. JT/67 against his calling range?
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06-22-2017 , 05:51 AM
Nope don't like this at all. V can have 88/99/89s himself as well as all the overpairs which people really don't like to let go of and you're basically dead vs his calling range. You're also IP and beating a chunk of his range so you can pick bluffs like 67s/JTs and maybe some NF combos with a GS to do this with. In zoom people sometimes x a street with JJ too so V's range is slightly more weighted to the overpairs that aren't folding too imo.
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06-22-2017 , 07:09 AM
This is very bad, especially with this hand.
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06-22-2017 , 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Rikk
Nope don't like this at all. V can have 88/99/89s himself as well as all the overpairs which people really don't like to let go of and you're basically dead vs his calling range. You're also IP and beating a chunk of his range so you can pick bluffs like 67s/JTs and maybe some NF combos with a GS to do this with. In zoom people sometimes x a street with JJ too so V's range is slightly more weighted to the overpairs that aren't folding too imo.
this kinda hits it

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06-22-2017 , 11:09 AM
I'm not calling that. I also think the defend PF is too light 122bbs deep. R/F PF is my play.
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06-22-2017 , 12:12 PM
look like spewing chips from here

glgl
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06-22-2017 , 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ARCANGEL0
look like spewing chips from here

glgl
lmao i feel like you could say "hey ur a donkey ****ter kill yourself" and you would still say glgl at the end of your posts

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06-22-2017 , 03:44 PM
Why are you bluffing with a hand with showdown value
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06-24-2017 , 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Rewdzx
lmao i feel like you could say "hey ur a donkey ****ter kill yourself" and you would still say glgl at the end of your posts

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06-24-2017 , 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Rewdzx
lmao i feel like you could say "hey ur a donkey ****ter kill yourself" and you would still say glgl at the end of your posts

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