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Old 02-01-2012, 05:22 PM   #1
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NL 25 squeezed pot vs a seems solid player and a fish.

Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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SB: $40.06
Hero (BB): $49.14
UTG: $30.48
MP: $25.00
CO: $18.17
BTN: $25.00

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with K 9
UTG raises to $0.75, 1 fold, CO calls $0.75, BTN calls $0.75, 1 fold, Hero raises to $4.50, 2 folds, BTN calls $3.75

Flop: ($10.60) 9 5 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $4.50, BTN calls $4.50

Turn: ($19.60) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $18.25, BTN calls $16 all in

River: ($51.60) 7 (2 players - 1 is all in)


I squeeze pre hoping to take the pot down immediately vs the three other players in the hand. Cutoff is the laggy whale at 62/26 and a call open of 60% over 110 hands. Button is 17/13 with 2 agg and a call open of 8% over 160 hands.

I flop top pair 2nd kicker. I bet small as I have a pretty good hand and it leaves me a good shovesize on the turn vs either of the stacks if they flat the flop. When just the tight player just calls what is a default play? The best I can hope for is a draw or any of ther three middlepairs it seems, but that is quite a few hands, but is he calling pre with anything but pps?
Possibly not?

Thoughts please.
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Old 02-02-2012, 01:28 PM   #2
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Re: NL 25 squeezed pot vs a seems solid player and a fish.

Flump

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Old 02-02-2012, 01:55 PM   #3
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Re: NL 25 squeezed pot vs a seems solid player and a fish.

btns 3bet would be interesting
i dont see you getting value from a 17/13 guy. you are basicly turning your hand into a bluff on the turn. Id also doubt that flop is a valuebet
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Old 02-02-2012, 02:51 PM   #4
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Re: NL 25 squeezed pot vs a seems solid player and a fish.

THe flop is definitely a valuebet. especially with my betsize. We have to remember it is still micro NL and even with reggish stats people can show up with weird stuff. Yeah, it is the turn that is the decision. Any more thoughts?
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Old 02-02-2012, 03:04 PM   #5
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Re: NL 25 squeezed pot vs a seems solid player and a fish.

flop seems fine

but when you 3b a solid UTG opener and he flats, his range is very tight- Prob should only continue vs the 3bet with like JJ+, AK, AQs maybe, so jamming the turn seems like a bad idea considering we need him to be floating flop with AK and then folding turn.
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Old 02-02-2012, 03:09 PM   #6
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Re: NL 25 squeezed pot vs a seems solid player and a fish.

C/f turn unless you expect him to be floating a bunch... Then c/c
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Old 02-03-2012, 12:42 PM   #7
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Re: NL 25 squeezed pot vs a seems solid player and a fish.

a random 17/13 guy doesnt call a 3bet UTG to float with A high on dry rag boards if you havent been 3betting a lot
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Old 02-03-2012, 01:21 PM   #8
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Re: NL 25 squeezed pot vs a seems solid player and a fish.

Assuming hero isn't viewed as a maniac, isn't the 17/13 making a pretty big mistake by calling off the turn with TT and JJ (which is about all he can really have unless he is setmining)? Most of the the time hero shows up with QQ+.
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Old 02-03-2012, 03:24 PM   #9
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Re: NL 25 squeezed pot vs a seems solid player and a fish.

fold pre, as played dont value betting yourself c/f turn
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Old 02-03-2012, 04:25 PM   #10
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Re: NL 25 squeezed pot vs a seems solid player and a fish.

c/f turn unless the reg has been floating 3b a lot from you, then c/r or c/c. If this is the first time you've seen him do this to you, when he continues post flop alarm bells should be ringing, otherwise rely on history
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Old 02-03-2012, 04:32 PM   #11
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Re: NL 25 squeezed pot vs a seems solid player and a fish.

i don't like squeezing k9s here against an utg openraise and with the very loose co in the hand. as played i would bet the flop, but definitely c/f turn.
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Old 02-03-2012, 07:33 PM   #12
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Re: NL 25 squeezed pot vs a seems solid player and a fish.

Don't you need at least some bluffs in this spot? What happens all too often is that hero usually has KK+ and everyone insta-folds because it looks so strong.
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