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Old 08-05-2012, 10:22 PM   #1
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NL 25 - fold set AA to rvr raise

    Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13671142

    BB: $25 (100 bb)
    UTG: $19 (76 bb)
    MP: $40.78 (163.1 bb)
    Hero (CO): $25 (100 bb)
    BTN: $35.85 (143.4 bb)
    SB: $25.33 (101.3 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with A A
    2 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, BTN folds, SB calls $0.65, BB folds

    Flop: ($1.75) 9 7 K (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $1.17, SB calls $1.17

    Turn: ($4.09) 3 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $2.54, SB calls $2.54

    River: ($9.17) A (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $5, SB raises to $20.87, Hero folds

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    villain 16/13 300H

    should i have bet the river bigger? Any other thoughts?
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    Old 08-05-2012, 10:45 PM   #2
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    Re: NL 25 - fold set AA to rvr raise

    I call a lot here (probably too much). With the Ad and Kd on board it really limits the number of flushes he can have given how tight he is pre. Folding is fine. Have we seen him bluff before? Is he aggressive enough that he might turn KxQd into a bluff? What's your image like?
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    Old 08-05-2012, 10:46 PM   #3
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    Re: NL 25 - fold set AA to rvr raise

    I'd bet a bit bigger on the rivr yeah, but in all honesty, you just got outplayed pretty much. He plays it fairly passive and reps tons of flushdraws and the river fold is honestly the right thing to do.

    If the river was the Ah we;re snapcalling for obvious reasons.
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    Old 08-05-2012, 10:47 PM   #4
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    Re: NL 25 - fold set AA to rvr raise

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    I'd bet a bit bigger on the rivr yeah, but in all honesty, you just got outplayed pretty much. He plays it fairly passive and reps tons of flushdraws and the river fold is honestly the right thing to do.

    If the river was the Ah we;re snapcalling for obvious reasons.
    How many flushdraws does a 16/13 flat out of the sb?
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    Old 08-05-2012, 10:50 PM   #5
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    Re: NL 25 - fold set AA to rvr raise

    at least 1 because that's what he will always have.
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    Old 08-05-2012, 10:53 PM   #6
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    Re: NL 25 - fold set AA to rvr raise

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    How many flushdraws does a 16/13 flat out of the sb?
    A 16/13 can't show up here with QJdd? JTdd? QTdd? Hell go for a 16/13 range and it probably even has J9dd in there.

    What exactly does 16/13 tell us about him playing from the blinds? I've got a reg I played thousands of hands with who calls from the SB with 78s and he's tigther than this guy AND it's fullring.

    If you don't think he has that many flushdraws this is the easiest call ever, I still see him having plenty of flushdraws + the way it's played makes it a fold, maybe not an easy one but still.
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    Old 08-05-2012, 10:55 PM   #7
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    Re: NL 25 - fold set AA to rvr raise

    QJ/QTdd as a total range does makes a lot sense.
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    Old 08-06-2012, 05:26 AM   #8
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    Re: NL 25 - fold set AA to rvr raise

    Your sizing is too small throughout, pretty weird considering there are so few flush combos villain can have but he will always have one of them
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    Old 08-06-2012, 05:53 AM   #9
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    Re: NL 25 - fold set AA to rvr raise

    bet bigger on every street and I am gonna call river.
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    Old 08-06-2012, 06:32 AM   #10
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    Re: NL 25 - fold set AA to rvr raise

    as a general rule, bet bigger on every street. On the river is tough, probably a fold given his stats.
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    Old 08-06-2012, 10:42 AM   #11
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    I call for the fact it's the Ad that hit the river... If it was a Xd I fold to river shove but the Ad hitting river pretty much means only flush he could have Is QJdd. And if he does NH sir
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    Old 08-06-2012, 10:45 AM   #12
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    Also him not leading river seems weak, because if he did catch flush he's losing so much value because a lot of times hero would just check back hand that has show down value behind his check.. So a check raise on the 3rd flush just screams to me he thinks you're weak
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    Old 08-06-2012, 10:48 AM   #13
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    Re: NL 25 - fold set AA to rvr raise

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    at least 1 because that's what he will always have.
    ^^^^

    Flop and turn should be larger on that sort of board.
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    Old 08-06-2012, 02:19 PM   #14
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    Re: NL 25 - fold set AA to rvr raise

    folding this and feeling great about it
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    Old 08-06-2012, 02:23 PM   #15
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    Re: NL 25 - fold set AA to rvr raise

    don't post the results
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