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| Micro Stakes PL/NL Discussions regarding micro stakes pot and no-limit hold'em (25c-50c and below) |
01-10-2010, 04:27 PM
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#301
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old hand
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Wake Forest
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Re: Moving Up Through uNL in 2010
One man's 15/12 can be completely different from another man's 15/12.
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01-10-2010, 04:30 PM
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#302
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Athens, GA
Posts: 5,510
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Re: Moving Up Through uNL in 2010
Postflop tendencies - for sure. Preflop opening ranges - probably not.
On the other hand, I would say that your statement is true for 22/19's much more so than 15/12's.
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01-10-2010, 04:36 PM
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#303
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old hand
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Wake Forest
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Re: Moving Up Through uNL in 2010
Yeah I guess I meant that you can't say "his PFR is x, and he open from MP, therefore his range is Y." Obv more applicable the higher x is.
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01-10-2010, 04:41 PM
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#304
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journeyman
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 360
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Re: Moving Up Through uNL in 2010
Quote:
Originally Posted by verneer
What if you can still get paid off by playing nitty? See the ChicagoJoey link above.
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haha yeah but that guy must be doing coke or some type of amphedamine lol.
I guess by playing nitty it has to do w/ not being at a proifitble enough table.
lol i was thinking about asking a question but answered it over in my head...
man gotta love making an autopilot move thats +EV without even playing
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01-10-2010, 04:44 PM
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#305
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Bradford
Posts: 5,586
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Re: Moving Up Through uNL in 2010
Quote:
Originally Posted by martin9_90
this range is terrible, do not read this and copy me if you are a newer player, look at a tigher range such as the one verneer posted which is alot easier and, probably, better.
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Just to clarify the color on the chart represents the frequency at which I get dealt these hands (I think), it does not represent the frequency I open raise them
Medicore hands, Just as A9o, K8s, may be included in the chart however are opened rarely and only when the conditions are right... such as tight players having position on you and loose players in the blinds.. for an exmaple of this see one of verneers posts.
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01-10-2010, 04:47 PM
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#306
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veteran
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Old Europe
Posts: 2,811
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Re: Moving Up Through uNL in 2010
Quote:
Originally Posted by verneer
[B]
Opening Readless from the CO:
It's important to get a sense of how much the button is going to let us raise. For the first 3-4 orbits, open most playable hands and see how he reacts:

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Kto Qto and s1g are really tough to play. I have a hard time to make it profitable. They are not an autoraise anymore though.
Anyone else having the same problems?
QT KT have huge kicker issues and s1g do really need help I guess
Last edited by hankat; 01-10-2010 at 04:57 PM.
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01-10-2010, 05:14 PM
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#307
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Athens, GA
Posts: 5,510
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Re: Moving Up Through uNL in 2010
hankat - what is a profitable range for you from the CO?
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01-10-2010, 05:50 PM
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#308
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: May 2009
Location: former winner of flips
Posts: 5,034
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Re: Moving Up Through uNL in 2010
those hands hankat filtered are basically tweener hands and are VERY dependant on button's ability to use position against us. Even if we're losing money opening them, I don't think it's a huge leak so long as we know when they start being unprofitable on certain table conditions.
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01-10-2010, 06:52 PM
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#309
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Athens, GA
Posts: 5,510
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Re: Moving Up Through uNL in 2010
A Closer Look at Playing A Hand Like a Pro
It's important to be in tune with your emotions when playing at the tables. I'll illustrate the feelings you might experience even within just one hand. This hand happened during yesterday's session. I was of course playing my typical late 3:15 a.m. A-game:
I just stacked this villain's QQ with my KK and the following hand comes up.
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Hand Converter from HandHistoryConverter.com
SB ($5.19)
BB ($10)
UTG ($6.95)
MP ($10)
Hero (CO) ($20.16)
Button ($9.70)
Preflop: Hero is CO with Q  , Q
2 folds, Hero bets $0.35, 2 folds, BB raises to $1.40, Hero calls $1.05
I decide to flat in position and hope for a favorable flop.
Flop: ($2.85) Q  , 4  , 6 (2 players)
Of course I flop gin and decide to not slowplay since I sense he is strong. I min-raise tarp him:
BB bets $2.30, Hero raises to $5, BB raises to $8.60 (All-In), Hero calls $3.60
He, of course, obliges and shoves. I correctly put him on what he had cause I'm so pro.
BB shows A  , A 
Hero shows Q  , Q
Turn: ($20.05) 2 (2 players, 1 all-in)
River: ($20.05) A (2 players, 1 all-in)
Total pot: $20.05 | Rake: $1.33
Results:
BB had A  , A  (three of a kind, Aces).
Hero had Q  , Q  (three of a kind, Queens).
Outcome: BB won $18.72
... and that is how to play a hand like a true professional poker player.
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01-10-2010, 07:03 PM
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#310
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: May 2009
Location: former winner of flips
Posts: 5,034
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Re: Moving Up Through uNL in 2010
ha! if only I could have done the picture illustration thing when I had AA in 3bet pot where villain open donk shoves 4x pot on 338r flop with QJ and I snapcall only to see runner runner T 9
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01-10-2010, 07:06 PM
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#311
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journeyman
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 360
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Re: Moving Up Through uNL in 2010
i think we really need to take heed, and embrace verneers last post.
Seriously look at the form as hes smashing the keyboard, Incredible!
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01-10-2010, 07:06 PM
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#312
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journeyman
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Winnipeg, Canada
Posts: 332
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Re: Moving Up Through uNL in 2010
LOL...awesome! The cam images that is. Bad break with him hitting his two outter. C'est la vie.
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01-10-2010, 07:08 PM
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#313
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grinder
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: blowing rolls
Posts: 402
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Re: Moving Up Through uNL in 2010
lol A+ more poasts like that
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01-10-2010, 07:10 PM
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#314
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See my coaching listing
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 14,112
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Re: Moving Up Through uNL in 2010
i'm looking forward to the blinds part. i've played a lot and i'm still always changing my mind about blind play, so pretty curious.
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