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Minimum defend frequency on turn and shove river? Minimum defend frequency on turn and shove river?

09-28-2016 , 07:18 PM
Villain is a 38/29 after 109 hands. No others particular read.

is turn bet too big to call ? I think 2-3 seconds on river to shove because of my multiple blockers. Comments...

CO ($1.44)
UTG ($10.50)
SB ($10.14)
Button ($10)
Hero (BB) ($25.11)
MP ($21.19)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Ah7h
4 folds, SB raises $0.25, Hero calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.60) Qh, 6h, 5d (2 players)
SB bets $0.48, Hero calls $0.48

Turn: ($1.56) Jc (2 players)
SB bets $1.26, Hero calls $1.26

River: ($4.08) 4c (2 players)
SB bets $3.29, Hero folds
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09-29-2016 , 01:41 AM
Raise or folding turn seem > calling turn vs. that sizing.
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09-29-2016 , 03:39 AM
Yeah, against that sizing: Fold > Raise > Call.
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09-29-2016 , 05:37 AM
Turn call is good in case you think you can get pay when you hit or you can bluff him some of the times when he checks to you.Call is better than raise because if you raise him ther is decent chance hi is going to 3 bet all in and you ll be force to fold.
Dont think its good to raise river SB range have all sets two pairs and straights,and we have only 3 combos of 78s.
I would advise to raise flop you can make some strong Ax to fold as well as small pp and you take the lead IP so its gone be relatively easy to win the pot latter .
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09-29-2016 , 09:41 AM
If you think in raising at any moment, imo the best time to do it is ott, however I agree with Fold > Raise > Call

I like only calling on flop, most of our improvement cards ott he'd feel great to continue barreling those.
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09-29-2016 , 04:30 PM
But by raise/shove, I think I capped to much when I call things like Top pair.

suppose I raise all flush draw and OESD that no contains a pair (approx 50 combos).

I should raise too sets and 2pairs+. (like 35 combos). It's not enough combos versus a villain of 38/29 to balance my value raising range. I don't have enough fold equity to raise bluff this much.
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09-29-2016 , 05:26 PM
3b pre

RR big otf

Fold turn.
Calling turn is burning $$$
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09-29-2016 , 07:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ARCANGEL0
3b pre

RR big otf

Fold turn.
Calling turn is burning $$$
3bet pre for bluff? I don't think so. In blinds battle, it's better to flat call. Nobody can squeeze.
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09-29-2016 , 07:35 PM
3bet pre for value.

There's a whole thread dedicated to this debate:
3b value or bluff?

In my case i 3bet for value here

However i didn't notice that sb opened to 5x.
I get very suspicious with this sizing so i rather just calling here.

Last edited by ARCANGEL0; 09-29-2016 at 07:40 PM. Reason: 3b
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