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Old 06-22-2012, 09:14 PM   #1351
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you obviously missed the point i was trying to make if you're still fairly sure you found out there is a large change in the general dynamics after playing 5k hands lol
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Old 06-22-2012, 10:23 PM   #1352
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The dynamic you are talking about is very much subject to perception and variance.

The more you move up the more you realize that every level plays the same.

Having recently played 10nl-50nl for the micro challenge, I can assure you that 25nl and 50nl are still similar. (although this is also based on somewhat small sample sizes)

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Old 06-22-2012, 11:16 PM   #1353
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im a bit confused at the moment..

how do we exploit people with tight ranges preflop, especially OOP?

for example, there's a lot of regs that I can't 3b JJ even QQ for value versus... but then i also can't get much value from my hand post flop, especially when im OOP, its the c/c game that every one hates. I can donk sometimes and do, but c/r boards such as T64 would be over repping my hand I feel...

I also can't 3b bluff them to make JJQQ a 3b/5b cos they're tighter than a nuns fanny so where do i go from here, all i see is KK< when the money goes in? .. maybe this implies i should 3b heaps of air until they adjust, but there too nitty to **** about with in general

any one shed any light?
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Old 06-22-2012, 11:28 PM   #1354
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You exploit them by not giving them action. They exploit themselves by not stealing your blinds enough.
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Old 06-22-2012, 11:29 PM   #1355
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Old 06-22-2012, 11:30 PM   #1356
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You exploit them by not giving them action. They exploit themselves by not stealing your blinds enough.
ty!, was sure it would be simple. i think once im stuck for the session i just wanna gamble too much and look to get it in lighter than everyone else will.
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Old 06-23-2012, 02:09 AM   #1357
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Winning Poker Network - $4 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: $519.20
Hero (CO): $459.80
BTN: $155.14
SB: $542.42
BB: $818.43

SB posts SB $2.00, BB posts BB $4.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $6.00) Hero has A A

fold, Hero raises to $12.00, fold, SB raises to $40.00, fold, Hero calls $28.00

Flop: ($84.00, 2 players) 7 5 5
SB bets $46.00, Hero raises to $100.00, SB calls $54.00

Turn: ($284.00, 2 players) 4
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($284.00, 2 players) J
SB bets $402.42 and is all-in, Hero calls $319.80 and is all-in

Hero shows A A (Two Pair, Aces and Fives) (Pre 83%, Flop 91%, Turn 82%)
SB shows 6 K (One Pair, Fives) (Pre 17%, Flop 9%, Turn 18%)
Hero wins $921.10


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Old 06-23-2012, 04:17 AM   #1358
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most of the difference is either in your head or just due to small sample. each level up there's a little less fish, a little more aggression, a little higher overall quality of play, etc, but its not really nearly as dramatic as people usually make it out to be. the easiest way to fail moving up is to freak out and over adjust thinking that its a completely different environment imo.
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you obviously missed the point i was trying to make if you're still fairly sure you found out there is a large change in the general dynamics after playing 5k hands lol
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The dynamic you are talking about is very much subject to perception and variance.

The more you move up the more you realize that every level plays the same.

Having recently played 10nl-50nl for the micro challenge, I can assure you that 25nl and 50nl are still similar. (although this is also based on somewhat small sample sizes)

ok then I was wrong, i knew obviously you could run bad over 5k hands, but didn't think variance would have played that much a part in the aggressiveness over 5k hands(especially in zoom where you're with the different people every hand).. but thats good gives me a bit more confidence when i shoot for the next time.
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Old 06-23-2012, 04:55 AM   #1359
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@skraper, why raise flop? :s
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Old 06-23-2012, 05:12 AM   #1360
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    On Game, $0.15/$0.30 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13307982

    Hero (SB): $39.64 (132.1 bb)
    BB: $29.85 (99.5 bb)
    UTG: $33.27 (110.9 bb)
    MP: $61 (203.3 bb)
    CO: $31.48 (104.9 bb)
    BTN: $31.20 (104 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with Q K
    2 folds, CO raises to $0.90, BTN folds, Hero calls $0.75, BB folds

    Flop: ($2.10) J 8 6 (2 players)
    Hero checks, CO bets $1.50, Hero raises to $4.20, CO calls $2.70

    Turn: ($10.50) A (2 players)
    Hero bets $7.95, CO calls $7.95

    River: ($26.40) 2 (2 players)
    Hero timebanks ;], Hero bets $26.59 and is all-in, CO calls $18.43 and is all-in

    Results: $63.26 pot ($3.00 rake)
    Final Board: J 8 6 A 2
    Hero showed Q K and won $60.26 ($28.78 net)
    CO mucked and lost (-$31.48 net)



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    Old 06-23-2012, 10:16 AM   #1361
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    haha

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    Old 06-23-2012, 12:00 PM   #1362
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    @skraper, why raise flop? :s
    Because I know he will interpret it as being FOS and it will let me stack his air.
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    Old 06-23-2012, 05:50 PM   #1363
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    I haven't played for ages until two days ago, when I started donking around with Zoom ... do any other sites have this format ?
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    Old 06-23-2012, 06:30 PM   #1364
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    I haven't played for ages until two days ago, when I started donking around with Zoom ... do any other sites have this format ?
    No.
    Welcome back

    Last edited by bebius; 06-23-2012 at 06:34 PM. Reason: and good luck
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    Old 06-23-2012, 06:51 PM   #1365
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    ok thx mate
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