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I want to know. DownSwing or Im Fish or Not? I want to know. DownSwing or Im Fish or Not?

05-27-2017 , 10:23 PM
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400 hand lost 6.5 buy-in



    Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37740701

    BTN: $2.72 (136 bb)
    SB: $10.59 (529.5 bb)
    Hero (BB): $2.20 (110 bb)
    UTG: $3.68 (184 bb)
    MP: $2.76 (138 bb)
    CO: $3.75 (187.5 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 9 T
    2 folds, CO calls $0.02, 2 folds, Hero checks

    Flop: ($0.05) J 8 Q (2 players)
    Hero checks, CO bets $0.02, Hero raises to $0.08, CO calls $0.06

    Turn: ($0.21) 3 (2 players)
    Hero bets $0.13, CO raises to $0.26, Hero raises to $0.98, CO calls $0.72

    River: ($2.17) J (2 players)
    Hero bets $1.12 and is all-in, CO calls $1.12

    Spoiler:
    Results: $4.41 pot ($0.15 rake)
    Final Board: J 8 Q 3 J
    Hero showed 9 T and lost (-$2.20 net)
    CO showed 3 J and won $4.26 ($2.06 net)



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    preflop raise?


      Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37740801

      BTN: $1.95 (97.5 bb)
      Hero (SB): $1.97 (98.5 bb)
      BB: $2 (100 bb)
      UTG: $2.07 (103.5 bb)
      MP: $3.71 (185.5 bb)
      CO: $4.31 (215.5 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with K K
      2 folds, CO raises to $0.06, BTN folds, Hero raises to $0.21, BB folds, CO calls $0.15

      Flop: ($0.44) 7 3 A (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.42, CO calls $0.42

      Turn: ($1.28) T (2 players)
      Hero bets $1.34, CO calls $1.34

      River: ($3.96) Q (2 players)

      Spoiler:
      Results: $3.96 pot ($0.14 rake)
      Final Board: 7 3 A T Q
      Hero showed K K and lost (-$1.97 net)
      CO showed 3 3 and won $3.82 ($1.85 net)



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        Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37740800

        BTN: $3.34 (167 bb)
        SB: $2.01 (100.5 bb)
        Hero (BB): $1.93 (96.5 bb)
        UTG: $3.30 (165 bb)
        MP: $6.66 (333 bb)
        CO: $2 (100 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is BB with K K
        3 folds, BTN raises to $0.07, SB folds, Hero raises to $0.22, BTN raises to $0.67, Hero raises to $1.93 and is all-in, BTN calls $1.26

        Flop: ($3.87) 9 7 J (2 players, 1 is all-in)
        Turn: ($3.87) 7 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
        River: ($3.87) 4 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

        Spoiler:
        Results: $3.87 pot ($0.14 rake)
        Final Board: 9 7 J 7 4
        BTN showed A A and won $3.73 ($1.80 net)
        Hero showed K K and lost (-$1.93 net)



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        i think this hand cooler




          Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37740802

          BTN: $2.18 (109 bb)
          SB: $2.12 (106 bb)
          Hero (BB): $4.44 (222 bb)
          UTG: $3.67 (183.5 bb)
          MP: $4.08 (204 bb)
          CO: $2.49 (124.5 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is BB with T K
          UTG raises to $0.06, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.06, SB folds, Hero calls $0.04

          Flop: ($0.19) T T 2 (3 players)
          Hero checks, UTG checks, BTN checks

          Turn: ($0.19) J (3 players)
          Hero bets $0.18, UTG calls $0.18, BTN folds

          River: ($0.55) Q (2 players)
          Hero bets $0.53, UTG raises to $1.06, Hero calls $0.53

          Spoiler:
          Results: $2.67 pot ($0.09 rake)
          Final Board: T T 2 J Q
          Hero mucked T K and lost (-$1.30 net)
          UTG showed K 9 and won $2.58 ($1.28 net)



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          this hand i think tilt + river bet/fold








            Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37740803

            BTN: $2 (100 bb)
            Hero (SB): $2.12 (106 bb)
            BB: $0.97 (48.5 bb)
            UTG: $3.11 (155.5 bb)
            MP: $2.11 (105.5 bb)
            CO: $2.04 (102 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is SB with Q A
            UTG calls $0.02, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.06, BB folds, UTG calls $0.04

            Flop: ($0.14) 9 2 Q (2 players)
            Hero bets $0.09, UTG calls $0.09

            Turn: ($0.32) J (2 players)
            Hero bets $0.21, UTG calls $0.21

            River: ($0.74) 9 (2 players)
            Hero bets $0.47, UTG raises to $0.94, Hero calls $0.47

            Spoiler:
            Results: $2.62 pot ($0.09 rake)
            Final Board: 9 2 Q J 9
            Hero mucked Q A and lost (-$1.30 net)
            UTG showed 5 T and won $2.53 ($1.23 net)



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            Last edited by kounmpo; 05-27-2017 at 10:46 PM.
            I want to know. DownSwing or Im Fish or Not? Quote
            05-27-2017 , 10:56 PM
            1. Its a cooler because CO is fish
            2. Check/fold flop probably, definitely do not continue on turn. Make a 3-bet calling range for him and see how many aces he has.
            3. IDK how often you should get KK in pre for 100bb but it basically depends on villains and player pool
            4. Fold River. What hands do you think he is raising with on that board? You don't beat any of them.
            5. Your villain (who is a fish) continues on flop with 9x, sometimes 2x, clubs and qx, pocket pairs, Tx. On the river everything beats you except 2x and busted Tx. He is fish so he has a lot more clubs than normal, and you having a queen blocks his queen combos so you should be check-folding.

            Basically you should try to put your opponent on a likely range of hands and play accordingly.
            I want to know. DownSwing or Im Fish or Not? Quote
            05-27-2017 , 11:26 PM
            This Result: yet i'm fish

            Thank you

            I looked again my hand history.

            Perhaps I met j3o and then became a calling station.

            Besides 1,3 hand, I seem to have made a bigger mistake.

            I Think The 3 hand was not so bad as I could meet AA and QQ with a 50% chance.

            More a Opponent Hand Range learning Thx
            I want to know. DownSwing or Im Fish or Not? Quote
            05-27-2017 , 11:33 PM
            One more Question

            How to best way read to Opponent Hand Range?

            I am still fish, is it enough to know the Opponent hand range with the hand range I know?

            if not used hud software Can i judge Opponent Hand Range how loose and tight?

            Last edited by kounmpo; 05-27-2017 at 11:40 PM.
            I want to know. DownSwing or Im Fish or Not? Quote
            05-27-2017 , 11:53 PM
            You don't need to know the ranges exactly, just have a good idea of what they usually have and what they most likely do not have. Are they mostly strong or mostly weak? You can get HUD as free trial, 1 month of pokertracker and 1 month of holdem manager. Ranges change after every action, for example preflop UTG can have any of the top 12% or whatever hands, whereas on the river if they bet they are usually going to have a few strong hands relative to the board. Just try to figure out what kinds of hands your opponent might bet or check or call or whatever. Download Flopzilla or Equilab and see if you can play around with it for a bit.
            I want to know. DownSwing or Im Fish or Not? Quote
            05-28-2017 , 08:11 AM
            f1sh
            I want to know. DownSwing or Im Fish or Not? Quote
            05-28-2017 , 10:04 AM
            OMG he is just starting and willing to study.
            OP avoid posting several hands in one post you can always get better discussion keeping the rule One hand per thread.
            Hands are rather coolers I only disliked the way you played KK on Axx monoflop. 2nd pair is rather x flop when you want to cb (most because you dont have K in FD suit) it should be much smaller size.
            Some hands should be played bit more carefully, the KT trips when river hit UTG's AK or AQ on the turn wher J and FD hit.
            I want to know. DownSwing or Im Fish or Not? Quote
            05-28-2017 , 06:21 PM
            Try to post less hands in 1 thread

            H1: Seems pretty standard.

            H2: Check flop. No need to try and GII with 2nd pair.

            H3: Standard.

            Variance is a real thing just gotta play through it. If you feel as though its going to effect your play after you lose a few buy ins no shame in taking a break.
            I want to know. DownSwing or Im Fish or Not? Quote
            05-28-2017 , 10:58 PM
            Fish, but probably still a winning player at 2nl to be honest. The only hand you really butchered was KK on Axx flop. Couple hands you face a min-raise, which I don't make a habit of folding to when I have any value. Price is too sick. Other than that KK vs AA PF is a cooler obviously not sure why even include it. Based on these hands I have a feeling you're losing a lot more value elsewhere, though. I specifically notice some pretty glaring bet size leaks.
            I want to know. DownSwing or Im Fish or Not? Quote
            05-29-2017 , 12:10 AM
            Both. You obviously got coolered but you made a lot of mistakes as well. Betting pot on the flop then jamming the turn with KK on Axx in a 3bet pot is really, really bad. You made several bet sizing mistakes and over-valued marginal hands.


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