getting C/raised by reg with TPTK on dry board

[Swanndogg]

Villain is a reg, and he knows I am one also. He is 21/17/5, and I know I play fairly TAG pre. He also knows I am cbetting about 70%, and probably 100% on this flop.

, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13424402

Hero (CO): $10.37 (103.7 bb)
BTN: $10.35 (103.5 bb)
SB: $13.28 (132.8 bb)
BB: $10.09 (100.9 bb)
MP: $6.59 (65.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q A
MP folds, Hero raises to $0.35, 2 folds, BB calls $0.25

Flop: ($0.75) Q T 6 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.40, BB raises to $1.17, Hero ????

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Does a set or even 2P c/raise such a dry flop? It really looks like some kind of SD. If flop was wetter this would be an easier fold.
If I do call, what do I do if he leads out turn blank? river? If turn comes a 8, 9 or K, or A, is this an easy fold if he leads turn?

[dalonelybaptist]

It's just going to be so difficult to get to SD assuming he will always barrel turn/river with 100% of his c/rai range. I'm guessing you don't have enough hands on villain for reliable post flop info like c/rai flop etc?

[As1an1nvas1on]

call

[Politicslove]

4bet, shove?

[Swanndogg]

Originally Posted by dalonelybaptist

It's just going to be so difficult to get to SD assuming he will always barrel turn/river with 100% of his c/rai range. I'm guessing you don't have enough hands on villain for reliable post flop info like c/rai flop etc?

correct

[Swanndogg]

Originally Posted by Politicslove

4bet, shove?

No. I just isolate his 2P/sets.

[Hicham009]

Originally Posted by Swanndogg

No. I just isolate his 2P/sets.

Call, re-evaluate turn.

[Dunna100]

Flop isn't so dry that if i had a set i wouldn't raise here. There are so many ugly turn cards. Having said that, if i had a set I'd raise bigger oop.
I think as u have position u can call and re evaluate turn, which may also give u more equity.

[skraper]

Can villain have QT pre? He doesnt seem like the type, especially given that you open from CO not BTN.

Would he 3b TT pre? Would he fold 66 pre? I would assume that he does both of these with some frequency.

All of his nutted value combos are discounted at least somewhat preflop. So that leaves a lot of hands that can be bluffing: AJ/KJ/89s/78s as well as possibly some value hands that we beat/chop with KQ/AQ

I think flop is a pretty easy call. Turn is where things start to get interesting. In general at 10nl, I expect TAGs to barrel turn with their bluffs and give up on river tea vast majority of the time.

So my gameplan here would be to call turn and fold river.

[vanuck]

Originally Posted by skraper

In general at 10nl, I expect TAGs to barrel turn with their bluffs and give up on river tea vast majority of the time.

This. A lot of tags will bluff raise this flop and even barrel the turn, but shut down on the river without improving. I call flop and most turns, but fold to a river bet.

[Swanndogg]

Originally Posted by skraper

Can villain have QT pre? He doesnt seem like the type, especially given that you open from CO not BTN.

Would he 3b TT pre? Would he fold 66 pre? I would assume that he does both of these with some frequency.

All of his nutted value combos are discounted at least somewhat preflop. So that leaves a lot of hands that can be bluffing: AJ/KJ/89s/78s as well as possibly some value hands that we beat/chop with KQ/AQ

I think flop is a pretty easy call. Turn is where things start to get interesting. In general at 10nl, I expect TAGs to barrel turn with their bluffs and give up on river tea vast majority of the time.

So my gameplan here would be to call turn and fold river.

Okay. So I called flop. The turn was a 9, and he led into me for about 80% pot. I folded. Are you still calling scare cards, or are you only calling blanks?

[skraper]

I would definitely be folding that turn vs that sizing

[SaysoNZ]

^ the sizing he used should be pretty consistent for all his vb/bluffs in order to have a reasonable sized bet otr to get ai

[Widget]

so his value range here is:
- Q T 1 combo (supposing he flats that pre)
- TT 3 combo (supposing he doesn't 3bet that pre)
- 66 3 combo (supposing he doesn't 3bet that pre, against your co open).

I don't think he ever does this with top pair.

It depends on how much bluffs you think he can have (ie. on his tendencies).

If you suppose he can do this with air/gs, call but giveup turn.