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Is 50 dollars a good starting bankroll?

It depends on the stakes you're playing, if you're able to reload more money (I guess what I mean to say is if you have another source of income that is constant), and your relative skill. $50 would be decent at nl2 if you bought in for 100bb and had a way to reload money. $50 would not be good if you were playing nl10 and were using the last $50 to your name.

It's good for 2nl. anything above that and I think you'll play scared money. Back when i started, I played on less than $100 most of the first year. But this was when you could safely 1-table party 25nl with $50. Even as a more experienced player, it's hard to play on a short roll because of variance. You don't want to be afraid to pull the trigger because you might go busto. I know there's plenty of players who have been super aggro with their roll, but most of them are the naturals at the game. It's kind of like a guy who can go right out of HS into the NBA. I definitely wouldn't get too frisky with your roll.

Mods only answer the questions?

yes

I concur

BR req for taking shots at NL25 while playing NL10

I'd say $500 if it's your first time playing nl25, and I would be moving down if I lost 4 buyins.

Agree. When you first shot-take, you'll most likely be nervous and not take +EV spots you might normally take. Don't compound that with being short-rolled and scared money.

Question

What's a perceived range :$ ?
(i googled it and found an article but i still don't quite get it tbh)

Perception is interpreted reality. When you "see" your "friend" coming towards you, what is really happening is, your eyes are sending signals to your brain - raw data - and your brain is accessing your memory and filtering the raw data. It recognizes the features and says "hey, it's your buddy, don't shoot". The same thing happens with perceived range.

Your perceived range is what your opponent thinks you have, based on your style, hands you've shown down, and actions so far in the hand. it's your interpretation of your opponent's range given the raw data at hand.



A perceived range is a range that a player "should" have. For example. I raise preflop, you call in the SB. Your perceived range there is {22-TT, AT-AJs, KQs, AQo}, I cbet a 256 flop and you c/r. Your perceived range is cut to mostly just sets. It's essentially what your opponent feels like your range is.

Why can't I have a well, and when will I be available to have a well?

You've been around for a year, most everyone with a well has been around for a long time and is a very respected and well-known poster.

A perceived range is the range your opponent puts you on. For example, a nit 2/2 opens utg, a decent hand reader will put the utg nit openers range to 2% of the best hands(TT+ and what not). However, the utg nits opening range may be polarized to trash hands(such as 72o, 52o). So a perceived range is the range you think that your opponent puts you on, or the range you think your opponent puts you on, for example.

Delete this msg, but hope waayoo gets the picture before u delete.

Thanks for doing this!

Gotta do something while watching college FB!

You're welcome. What thac means is, the Buckeyes played Thursday and he's bored

Is it important not to overthink/overanalyze at 2nl?

One of the biggest mistakes people can make is assuming villain is rationalizing. You have to realize that the majority of 2nl players are pretty much clicking buttons. so don't assume they know what they're doing, can know what you're doing, or why. So trying to outthink your opponents there will most likely just end up with you outleveling yourself and losing money.

I wouldn't assume my opponents are thinking. I wouldn't look too far past a simple checklist of things to do. Something like:

[ ] good hand preflop, raise.
[ ] bad flop for hand, check.
[ ] good flop for hand, bet pot.

And so on, I wouldn't even try to go into what they're thinking, because they're probably not thinking about anything except what kind of shot they're gonna pour themselves next.

What's the most profitable way to play tpgk/overpairs against a 40-70bb scrub on a semi-drawy board with no real reads because he's a 40-70bb scrub? Do we get aggressive or let them do the betting?


Assuming this is a single raised pot. So say he limps UTG+1, you iso in CO to 5bb.

Flop pot: 12.5bb, stacks are 65 effective

Bet 10. He calls, 33.5bb pot, stacks are 55. I'm shoving here a lot of the time. You're not bet/folding with these stacks. If he's terrible he'll call with a flush draw/weaker hands. Same with 40, but bet smaller on the flop and shove turn.


I'd just bet/bet/bet. There's no need to get tricky, I'd bet about pot on every street. If he flats your 3bb raise, out of the blinds, there's 7.5bb in the pot, betting 7 puts 21.5bb in the pot with 30-60 left, then you can either bet really small so you can shove the river comfortably, or really big so he's basically committed to the hand.

So pumped for this thanks again for taking the time to put this together thac! and thank you Udbrky for partaking.

I have been having this discussion with some people in a study group. Assuming we are playing at anywhere from 2nl to 25nl, is it okay to adjust your raise size basked on hand strength. The "normal" being 4x +1bb per limper.

Lets see if I can make an example: we might raise KK to 4x in MP but should we raise to only 3x with 77 in MP?

also does this differ at any of these stakes?

I would do this with fish behind most definitely.

I'd be lots more likely to do this on the lower end of the stake spectrum in your question. At nl2 or nl5, I'd be much more likely to 6x AA. At 25nl, I'd consider making it more if there were two fish in the blinds because they're the people we want to play pots with. I could definitely see myself raising more with monsters.

is it good to c/c c/c and then pop em on the river

is folding sets worse than murder

It's alright, it's a good line with like a weird turned 2 pair or some kind of medium-strong strength value hand that isn't strong enough to c/r turn/shove river and get a call from worse.

No, folding sets is fine, just don't tell anyone about it.

I hope it's okay to pot twice in a row I didn't want to clutter my posts too much.

What type of range should we use when 3-betting in the blinds against a c/o or btn open. If he plays standard tag 20/17. Should we only the top of our range? (I guess I should read up on blind defense :/ )

Definitely start with a value range, specifically hands you wouldnt be afraid to get in preflop such as QQ+ and AK. Then add in bluff hands. I prefer hands with card removal as well as a shot of making a big hand. Most ppl prefer to 3bet SCs as their "bluff" but I prefer things like K3s, since we remove some big value hands from their range by having a K. The biggest thing though is to keep tabs on their fold to 3bet stat and not to go too nuts

Def read the stickies on that and 3betting.


I use a polarized range in the blinds. What you need to do is find a baseline of what you're 3betting for value. This is the range I'm ok with 3b/5bai with against villain. It will depend on his tendencies and your history. Once you've established what range you can 3bet for value, you should have a fairly closely corresponding % that is junk. By junk, I mean stuff you're on a complete bluff with, and won't be upset that you had to 3b/fold. This is why you shouldn't 3bet your middle range, but should be calling with the better part of it that does well against his range. Also, don't 3bet hands that will leave you going "great, now what?" postflop - like QTo. Do you want to stack off? It'll leave you confused, which leads to you beign in a ****ty spot, so just don't get into that spot.

For example, you decide you can 3b/5bai w/ TT+, AQ+., then you should be 3b bluffing with about the same frequency (4.7%). Maybe A2s-A5s (has strength and blockers), 54s-98s, and a couple offsuit combos.

But the wider you 3bet for value, the less I'd bluff. Your perceived range is super wide, so don't bluff as much, they think you're bluffing more than you are. That's why you can value 3b more.

are you watching the ole miss/jacksonville state game?

No, baseball (lol baseball)

Is the small blind basically the same thing as button if folded to me and I am in the small blind? The big blind is supposed to not call often I had heard, and I can cbet him if he does call?

No, its very different due to the fact that you will be out of position on the flop. This is actually a reason BBs will call or 3bet you more, because they know they will have position on you once the flop comes out

yeah, you'll be OOP, so I'd expect him to call a lot more than if he was SB and you were BB. He should 3bet more than he would against a BTN open because your range is super wide and he's IP. It's probably the second best spot to 3b more - besides BTN vs CO.

I 3b a LOT more in BB when the SB opens, and I defend really wide as well. You're out of position with a wide range and it's gonna be hard to have a good hand that meets a good flop. I play REALLY tight against decent regulars in the SB vs BB because I expect them to make my life hell.