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Flop the nuts, turn pairs, river a flush against a fish Flop the nuts, turn pairs, river a flush against a fish

06-15-2017 , 05:53 PM
Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 58.2 BB (VPIP: 45.00, PFR: 30.00, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 21)
MP: 141 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 18.55, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 257)
CO: 102.8 BB (VPIP: 26.19, PFR: 26.19, 3Bet Preflop: 13.79, Hands: 86)
BTN: 189.4 BB (VPIP: 44.58, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 85)
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 21.94, PFR: 17.41, 3Bet Preflop: 8.30, Hands: 657)
Hero (BB): 126.4 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has T Q

fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, BTN calls 3 BB, SB calls 2.6 BB, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop: (12 BB, 4 players) J 9 8
SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks, BTN checks

Turn: (12 BB, 4 players) J
SB checks, Hero bets 7.4 BB, fold, BTN calls 7.4 BB, fold

River: (26.8 BB, 2 players) 7
Hero bets 18.4 BB, BTN raises to 179 BB and is all-in,

Hero??

Previously V has been limping and calling with a variety of bad hands. In terms of showdowns, I've only seen V cold call a 4b and then a 5b w/ AQs, leading the flop w/ a NFD.

Really tough decisions for me at the tables today, but maybe they shouldn't be
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06-15-2017 , 06:14 PM
Don't think I can fold this one vs a 45/0, but it's close. I think he shows up with Tx a decent portion of the time, and plenty of worse flushes are in his range too.

There's a case to be made for donk-betting this flop - CO's checking it back a huge % of the time in a 4-way pot and there's plenty of draws/made hands for you to extract value from. As played, I'd bet bigger on the turn too.
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06-15-2017 , 07:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SleuthOfBears
Don't think I can fold this one vs a 45/0, but it's close. I think he shows up with Tx a decent portion of the time, and plenty of worse flushes are in his range too.

There's a case to be made for donk-betting this flop - CO's checking it back a huge % of the time in a 4-way pot and there's plenty of draws/made hands for you to extract value from. As played, I'd bet bigger on the turn too.
I couldn't fold it either, based purely on the fact that he can have worse value some percentage of the time.
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06-15-2017 , 07:52 PM
125bb deep with a 45/0 I think I'd just potdonk/pot/jam basically any runout, though admittedly I'm awful.

4way that flop is terrifying for almost any hand but yours, so the vast majority of the times you x/c CO will check turn, and the vast majority of the times you x/r CO will fold - adding in the huge chance that the flop checks though you'll average far less than a cbet of CO's money going into the pot, and 45/0 means he'll probably only fold hands weaker than 9x otf and might even stack off that light.

I would also bet bigger turn and river if I did check flop.

As played I'd call, but move everything easily broken out of arms reach first.
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06-17-2017 , 08:24 PM
That's a sick spot. I think it's very close but based on the information that you gained previously about villain, it pushes it more towards a call. It's really really ****ty though
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06-18-2017 , 04:53 AM
seems like a fold vs someone that passive (45/0), who prlly doesnt even raise a flush for value
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06-18-2017 , 05:56 AM
As played I think I'm folding, as this type of ultra passive fish doesn't even do this with a T or a worse flush, I don't think.

But I'd bet flop for sure, which incidentally probably makes these spots easier all round.
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06-18-2017 , 11:58 AM
i fold otr
3rd flush on a paired board?
Let it go man

I lead flop BIG

glgl
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