No Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25
Winning Poker Network
5 players
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Villain: 35/31/1.71/21 3b

Stacks:
UTG - UTG ($30.95)
CO - Hero ($34.42)
BTN - BTN ($25.00)
SB - SB ($25.00)
BB - BB ($27.36)

Preflop: ($0.35, 5 players) Hero is CO with Q A
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.75, 2 folds, BB calls $0.50

Flop: 6 T J ($1.60, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.76, BB calls $0.76

Turn: 8 ($3.12, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.48, BB raises to $4.44, Hero calls $2.96

River: 4 ($12.00, 2 players)
BB raises to $21.41 (all-in), Hero calls $21.41

Total Pot: $54.82
BB shows 9 7 (with Flush, J high)
Hero shows Q A (with Flush, A high)

Hero wins $52.08 with Flush, A high

Did I have the correct pot odds to call his 3bet on the turn?

I estimated this range for his OTT raise, pretty much all flushes he can have and some 2 pairs (JT can be argued about, since most likely he would x/r them OTF) ,let me know if you agree/disagree and what you would change:

JTs,J8s,QsTs,Ks9s,Qs9s,Ts9s,Ks7s,Qs7s,Ts7s,9s7s,Ks 5s,Qs5s,7s5s,Ks4s,Qs4s,7s4s,5s4s,Ks3s,5s3s,4s3s,Ks 2s,JTo,KsQd,KsQh,KsQc,KsJd,KsJh,KsJc,KsTd,KsTh,KsT c,QsJd,QsJh,QsJc,QsTd,QsTh,QsTc

We would have 28.62% equity, when he raises you need ~32.64, so I guess the optimal play would be folding. If you think you have high chances of getting his stack when you call and you hit the flush, then you could call exploitably

i agree with Magyc.

A better line should be a x-behind on the turn. Keep control of the pot an save money when you miss the river.

nh

I don't know if calling turn would have to be an exploitation.

We need an average of 1.3024... when we hit to break even. Depending on villain's sizing, this is between 21.70666...% (for 1/2 pot) and 6.08312...% (for shove) river bet frequencies on spades to break even. I think it is unlikely that villain should be betting less frequently than this. For simplicity I'm ignoring the times he check/calls and any reverse implied odds we have on the Ts and some other subtleties.

It is really hard to predict how GTO would play, you never know what the computer will say (in spots it can say anything). With villain's betting range it should be possible to solve the turn at this SPR with a bit of effort.

If he's going to punt off his stack to you on the river, yes. Even if not, it's a good call.

This is wrong. We're calling $2.96 to win $9. We need almost exactly 25% equity. And in no way is it optimal to fold even if it's slightly losing since implied odds exist which I realize you mentioned.

Also, betting the turn is the correct play. Also, betting the river if given the chance and we miss.

tfw i do maths assuming other ppl did their maths right

feels bad man

I agree on betting turn, but how often will V GII OTR once a 4th spade hits and he has anything below Qs? (That being said I'm not saying it is a bad call, just wondering how profitable it can be) And how is 2.96 to win 9 25%, wouldn't it be 25% if you put 3 to win 12?

Sorry if I'm wrong, remember to take whatever I say with a grain of salt

It's essentially $3 to win $9. How many times does 3 go into 9? 3. So it's 3:1. Getting 3:1 means we need 25%. Some people, like Doug Polk for example, do the math slightly differently but come up with the same answer:

$3/($3 (raise) +$3 (call of raise) + $6 (pot size not including raise)) which will also equal 25%.

Boils down to $3/$12

Funny enough I see the second way becoming more common. This after I learned how to do the math on 2p2 in 07/08.

Right, it was just me having a brain fart. Sorry for that.

Don't post results in future. I would be checking back turn. I think the 8s improves villains range quite a lot

^ I agree I don't see how fold equity has improved since the flop.

Gto play would probably to check flop a lot because our hand has tough time vs c/r it has SDV it can hit the nuts and strong pairs and you pretty much can call every turn if V leads.
AP-turn bet /call is ok we getting good odds some times we have the best hand sometimes we hit sometimes we bluff him off otr