*** December '11 LC Thread***

[ionutd]

Originally Posted by skraper

Well that's just crazy talk.

If you cant get AK aipf vs regs, you need to play a different network. Or fix your image.

dunno if it's variance but for the last 40-50k hands this really hasn't been the case.

[fanapathy]

^Same for me thru over 100k hands. It just doesn't happen. Vs spazzy fish yes sure. I see AA vs QQ on occasion (usually it's me with QQ), JJ is like...I can't even remember. Only vs tilted regs did I see something like that. A uNL reg with AK aipf, doesn't happen much, which obviously is a mistake since it can fold out 77-JJ pf some times

But those don't even 3b! LOL. I already call 3b too much and the few times I've hero called someone who I thought 3b wide it's like yeah KK, which they even get passive with if board gets a bit weird

Not complaining, I use red line for profit so whatever

[ionutd]

I was fearing this but thought it was a variance thing and plowed on dropping buy-ins
even with an aggro image and I have a decently high 3b, they might have light 4b ranges but the money is only going in with QQ and a rare AK here and there.

guess that makes it correct to 4b/f AK oop? calling and playing back seems spewy w/o an idea of what they 3b? I honestly don't know how to adapt.

[ionutd]

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11253382

BB: $52 (104 bb)
Hero (UTG): $60.30 (120.6 bb)
MP: $51.50 (103 bb)
CO: $23.45 (46.9 bb)
BTN: $60.35 (120.7 bb)
SB: $20 (40 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A J
Hero raises to $1.75, 4 folds, BB calls $1.25

Flop: ($3.75) K J J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2, BB calls $2

Turn: ($7.75) A (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB raises to $11.50, Hero raises to $56.55 and is all-in, BB calls $36.75 and is all-in

River: ($104.25) 4 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Spoiler:

Results: $104.25 pot ($3.00 rake)
Final Board: K J J A 4
BB showed Q T and won $101.25 ($49.25 net)
Hero showed A J and won $0.00 (-$52 net)

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[HU4hoes]

I'm never 4bet folding AK....

[DaycareInferno]

pretty sure limp raise 5bet fold is optimal with AK vs most villains

[ionutd]

y u no think I'm serious :-(

[DaycareInferno]

i dont really understand what you're asking. there's lot of villains/situations where i think that calling a 3bet or folding to a 3bet with AK is fine. not really any i'm gonna 4bet/fold AK unless its some weird deepstack hand vs a very specific villain.

[ionutd]

k yeah I know makes sense to me too
just running it through someone else thanks

[udbrky]

Why is your flop bet so small there? $3 is better, 2.50 at the least.

[ionutd]

true
click back turn better than shove?

[WithoutAir]

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11253542

SB: $25 (100 bb)
BB: $28.94 (115.8 bb)
UTG: $25.35 (101.4 bb)
Hero (MP): $74.47 (297.9 bb)
CO: $15.09 (60.4 bb)
BTN: $8 (32 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A A
UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.87, CO calls $0.87, 2 folds, BB raises to $3.50, Hero calls $2.63, CO folds

Flop: ($7.97) 4 9 T (2 players)
BB bets $4.39, Hero calls $4.39

Turn: ($16.75) 6 (2 players)
BB bets $21.05 and is all-in, Hero calls $21.05

River: ($58.85) Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $58.85 pot ($2.00 rake)
Final Board: 4 9 T 6 Q
BB showed Q Q and won $56.85 ($27.91 net)
Hero showed A A and lost (-$28.94 net)

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Some days I hate poker.

[DaycareInferno]

just keep at it. eventually you'll hate poker every day.

[immadeadbird]

Originally Posted by DaycareInferno

just keep at it. eventually you'll hate poker every day.

hahahahahaha oh joy

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