BTN 3bet is 20% over small sample.My plan was to get fold him to fold pre or to gii if he raise but he call and its very awkward on flop every option looks bad :/
BTN: $5.57
SB: $4.90
BB: $5.25
UTG: $6.57
Hero (MP): $4.83
CO: $6.33

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is MP with A K
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.14, CO calls $0.14, BTN raises to $0.60, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.34, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.74

Flop$2.89) 6 9 5 (2 players) Hero bets $1.30, BTN raises to $4.23 all in, Hero folds

x/f flop.

Your 4bet size oop is too small. I would just go bigger.


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Probably just 3-bet bigger pre. There might be an argument for just ripping it, but I think a 3-bet of around $1.80 is good.

Make it $2+ if you wanna get him fold to your 4bet


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why you think sizing is that important?If I go any bigger I price my self in calling any future bet and I dont give him opportunity to 5 bet bluff me

Because u are giving him too good of a price preflop to fold any hands that aren't a complete bluff

Sizing is absolutely fine. You actually want people to be able to continue with worse in a spot where you're never folding.

Size may be fine, what is worse OP does not rebuy to 100bb and cbet all AK might be too much.

I rebuy when I am below 85bb
My question was more about flop play.I really dont know what line to take c/f just seem to weak

The problem with betting is better doesn't fold ever, you might get floated by worse occasionally but there aren't enough good turn cards for you when you don't hold a club (which half your AK does). You could conceivably check/call vs. some sizings but I don't know if villains are going to have enough bluffs for us to want to do that.

He 3-bet an MP open and flatted a 4-bet, we have to give him some credit. If you bet, make it like 1/3 pot.

I was thinking when he flat 4 bet his ragne looks somthink like this; AA(3) KK(3) QQ(6) AK(9) maybe AQ(12) JJ(6)
So if I bet I move him of a split and he folds AQ and if I check he bets 100% of time

Bad advice. You have AK, OP. You don't have a made hand. Which means you want to treat AK as a bluff preflop unless you're flatting it. Make it $2 pre, preferably $2.20 something like that.

The problem here is postflop play is going to be extremely awkward if an A or K doesn't hit. AK is good for 4 bets, it's not so good to snap off someone else's 4 bet. AK's power is your ability to confidently 4 bet pre and try to win the pot or call if someone 5 bet shoves over you.

As played, x/f flop. Or x/jam if villain is wild and likes to stab ATC in big pots but you need solid reads for this.

With your 4 bet size pre, I think the calling range is a bit wider. Probably a nervous 1010 or JJ, KK or QQ might just ship it, could be AA, AK might ship it, could be AQ, could be KQs etc.

But I mentioned the problem above already. AK's power is in it's ability to bluff pre flop.

I know that AK is semi bluff preflop,but if I go so big with AK what I should do with AA KK in that spot again go big and fold 90%of his range?And if I go 2 $ I cant fold to 5 bet or to bet on flop so its better then to 4 bet all in max FE

Ain't nobody gonna know what you're doing with a dynamic 4 bet size pre flop at this level.

If you're going to use this sizing as a 4 bet with AK, that is not good as I stated above.

You're correct in THEORY about balancing and etc etc but this is micro stakes. Villains aren't this sophisticated. Balancing only is important if villains are going to exploit you and you're not at that level yet.

So yes, 4 bet AA or KK bigger as well or flat if you feel a 4 bet is going to fold out 90% of the range. But even if you get a fold remember you're actually taking down .88 cents which in 10NL is not a small amount.

I dont know when somebody 3 bets me so big I expect to show up with AK AQ JJ or some other vulnerable hand close to 100% of time

No.

You want to pick a bet size that properly serves all purposes. When you make it $2 you now can't fold anything to a shove. That means that you can never bluff with this sizing, and villain can respond perfectly by pushing the top of his range. All you're doing is reducing the game to coolers.

By picking the size OP did, he can conceivably bluff this way. Which is good, because even if he doesn't 4-bet bluff at 5nl he wants the opponent to think he can. Against wider 3-betters, he might want to 4-bet A5s sometimes. And when he has AA he wants to use this size so that his opponent can give him value.

Just going pointlessly huge because you're considering AK a bluff and you're scared of playing post-flop is really, really, bad.

lol ok let's all keep playing leveling games and trying to 'outplay' our opponents at 5NL

4bet bigger then snap off any 5 bet shove if stacks are 100BB's.

I'm making it $2 pre because CO and BU are both in the hand so far.

I'm not levelling anything. If you bet to a size where you're priced into calling a shove with any two cards there's no levelling involved. It's a size that you can't (and would never want to) bluff with. If you don't see why that's bad, I'm not sure I can make it much clearer.

You're making it tougher to get paid off on your big hands, reducing the game to coolers, and not allowing yourself to ever bluff when you face better opponents. That's bad.

If you're just going to lol at that then fine, I'll leave it to whomever may read this thread to decide whose argument they buy into more.

I'm not 4 betting light at these stakes so your argument is not applicable to me.

There are enough opportunities to just value bet and raise for value that leveling with 4 bet bluffs is not important to me unless there is a perfect spot for it.

Again...this is 5NL. ABC poker does not include 4 bet bluffs at this level.

Unless it's AK, then I like it but that's a semi-bluff anyway.

(imo)

I find that most microstakes players are horrible at responding to a small 4bet. Pretty much they end up capping their calling range and playing a strong unbalanced 5bet range. I'd much prefer that scenario where we can exploit our opponent than gii pre where usually no one is making mistakes.

Players at micros went some way forward from 2005, 4b bluff range is not surprising now.
And thinking about AK as (semi)bluff pre is kinda strange.

The 4B size really can't be any larger without producing an unbalanced range weighed towards value. Maybe this isn't that important in 5NL? Personally I'd just flat the 3B and take it from there.

C/F is an option, I'm not B/F that flop.

Hey Blade, what's your flop play?

I specifically dealt with the idea that you might not want to bluff at 5nl. You don't have to.

What you don't want is to choose a size where it's obvious to absolutely anyone a little self-aware that you can't bluff.