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Old 07-15-2010, 06:33 PM   #1
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AHA moments

This is kind of a corollary of the "Expensive thoughts" thread. It gets asked in every well. so, what are some of your aha moments that helped you improve as a player?

1) Poker's not about adding a trophy. The purpose isn't to make a great hand and show it off. It's about making money. Sure, it's cool to show off the royal/quads/etc. But you don't always make a lot of money on those monsters. A lot of your little wins come from not getting to showdown.

2) 3betting IP with a wide range is the nuts. 3betting OOP with a wide range is nuts.

3) Don't bet so that your opponent only folds out the weak part of his range that you beat.

4) Don't auto pilot. There's no standard right way to play every hand/draw/etc. Take into account your opponents' tendencies/stack sizes/position.
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Old 07-15-2010, 06:43 PM   #2
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Re: AHA moments

Putting myself in their shoes when i started realizing i hated getting raised. The weak tight regs become so exploitable and then you feel you turn the corner.
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Old 07-15-2010, 06:51 PM   #3
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Re: AHA moments

For me it was when I found out what an awesome poster udbrky is.

Secondly....this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EXxMlIExpo

The only serious thing I can really add is supporting udbrky's number 2 post. This really is excellent advice and a common uNL misunderstanding of when and where to 3bet bluff.
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Old 07-15-2010, 06:54 PM   #4
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point 2 is awesome!co vrs btn or sb vrs bb is awesome for 3bets imo? My ah moment in poker was opening up your button range, and tighten up in blinds, and understanding ranges

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Old 07-15-2010, 07:01 PM   #5
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Re: AHA moments

Learning why ATo is never a profitable open UTG and 68s is.
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Old 07-15-2010, 07:05 PM   #6
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Re: AHA moments

when you lose a pot you were a big favourite to win and smile it off cause you know you made the right play
also known as: managing emotions, which makes you play consistently well which is very important to becoming a winning player
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Old 07-15-2010, 07:06 PM   #7
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point 2 is awesome!co vrs btn or sb vrs bb is awesome for 3bets imo? My ah moment in poker was opening up your button range, and tighten up in blinds, and understanding ranges
Mine was kinda opposite for blinds, when i started being alot more aggressive in the blinds vs CO & BTN.

Playing in the SB 22/17 with a 9% 3bet squeaking out a 25bb profit over 2k hands.
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Old 07-15-2010, 07:14 PM   #8
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Re: AHA moments

1) vs an aggro fish, you dont "loosen your range because more of your range beats his", you "tigten your range, so that when you hit, you will feel more comfortable letting him stack off against you"

2) check call with a monster to the river and then huge river overbet all ins work. The fish got this right.

3) if they are betting at you in a way that ends with them putting most if not all of their chips in, there is no reason to show agression if you have showdown value. Especially true vs players who dont bet draws.

4) dont call over bets on the river unless you have the nuts, or they are an aggro fish and do it all the time. Just dont do it.

5) If a fish bluffs the flop, he will bluff the turn and river (assuming he continues to miss, thus not begin value betting). This might as well be a theorum because its guarunteed. also, fish dont semi bluff, if they bluff, they have nothing at all.
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Learning why ATo is never a profitable open UTG and 68s is.
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Old 07-15-2010, 07:19 PM   #10
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Re: AHA moments

I'd keep an eye on that, because 2k hands is a small sample size - even if it's 2k SB hands, that's only like 12k hands total. That's still a small sample size.

Other ones I forgot:

Stopping well. Don't push a rough day into a ****ty day. Take a good quick win and go enjoy the day sometimes. Stop when you realize you're not paying attention.

Don't try to be like someone you see - just learn the principles behind why they make some of the plays they make.

Learn when you have to put in the last bet, and when you can let them put in the last bet, and why.
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Old 07-15-2010, 07:25 PM   #11
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Learn when you have to put in the last bet, and when you can let them put in the last bet, and why.
This is one of the most important things in NL Holdem. Golden Advice Brky.

Also learning that although a play might be +EV it can still be outright ****ing retarded.
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Old 07-15-2010, 07:27 PM   #12
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Red line is nothing at NL10.

Red line looks good but green is **** as soon as i stopped trying to go red baby it works (When red line starts to level off green shoots up). Please, everyone, stop with the red

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Old 07-15-2010, 07:28 PM   #13
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also enjoy when i make reads then exploit the bollix out of them, like he floats and bets when i check, so i cr the ****er, or bet bet c/c coz he bluffs his missed draws, love exploit donk bets- cracking fishes donk betting style, then lol at when i don't pay them, or take it away from them! Love bet sizing tells too, i love alot of wee silly things, lolol
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Old 07-15-2010, 07:33 PM   #14
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my AHA moment was realizing that no one ever has anything until they take an action that they rarely take.
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Old 07-15-2010, 07:34 PM   #15
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choose good spots to raise preflop
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