PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 109.8 BB
SB: 109.4 BB (VPIP: 10.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
BB: 102.4 BB (VPIP: 20.56, PFR: 18.33, 3Bet Preflop: 7.04, Hands: 187)
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
MP: 111.8 BB (VPIP: 32.99, PFR: 29.90, 3Bet Preflop: 17.02, Hands: 97)
CO: 103 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K Q

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, BB raises to 9.4 BB, Hero calls 6.4 BB

Flop: (19.2 BB, 2 players) 4 8 K
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (19.2 BB, 2 players) 8
BB bets 18.4 BB, Hero calls 18.4 BB

River: (56 BB, 2 players) 7
BB bets 53.6 BB, Hero calls 53.6 BB



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V seems like solid reg.

Tanked a long time where I wasn't sure about defending KQo pre to a 3b. From an SB 3b I'm snap calling but from BB I feel like people merge their range less where they flat a lot of the hands that KQo plays well against and we get dominated a TON. Sizing played a factor as well, I think a 4x 3b might have pushed me to a fold.

I still think flop x back is good but happy to hear others' thoughts if not.

Turn call seems p standard with TPGK, even though PSBs scare the **** out of me.

Another PSB OTR and I think I'm overcalling here vs population tendencies, though I'm probably at the top of my range excluding 89s, 87s and maybe 77.

Just feels when V checks flop and then pots it twice it's because he wanted to x/r the flop and is now trying to salvage value.

hand is played well imo

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I'd fold river. Seems like he should have a few 8's here. If he wanted to run a bluff, he'd have bet the flop.

85s is the only one I can see here.

That's because you're projecting your preflop play onto him. Him having an eight really wasn't my point though as that's not the only way we're beaten. My point was it's a ******ed bluff line and one that a "solid" player isn't likely to take. I'm much more comfortable calling down for 3 streets in this spot than calling two psbs in a spot that people rarely bluff.

So I definitely agree that it's a stupid bluff line, and in reality he may have more eights. Simultaneously, we could argue that he could have no 8s here, or that this is a dumb value line, and both arguments are valid, barring a lock on, overwhelming population read. So when stuff like this happens where our opponent takes an unbalanced line with a range that doesn't make much sense, we kind of have to do what makes as much sense as possible given our range. That's personally why I advocate call moreso than I advocate fold in this spot; versus a potentially balanced line here we'll probably be overfolding if we fold here, and we realistically don't have a read that he'll over or underbluff when he takes this line, so I think it's fine to call here.

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For that river size i think you might have to fold. If you designate him 'solid reg' i find it really hard to believe he has any bluffs here. He didnt pick up a semibluff on the turn either.

What hands are you betting flop with?

Sets, AA, AK, air. It's a really dry board so I think checking back most of our range is fine

I think you lose too much value by slow playing AA at this stake but I guess AK,88, suited connecters and gappers is fine for bet range.

That's a fair point, we are probably 4b AA pre

I tank fold this spot (hopefully). Agree that this seems to rarely be a bluff. Villain probably has an 8 or Kx, AA that felt the board was too dry to bet.

Nailed it.

Thanks for the help and good discussion guys. V had AKcc, what do we think of his play? Nobody seemed to question calling the 3b pre too, does anyone fold to a 4x raise?

How often do you see someone >psb 3bet vs a steal?

3.5-4x original raise seems standard size to me?

Folding KQo to a 3-bet after opening otb seems criminal.

I mean, it's not something I would usually do but I was just wondering when thinking about a typical 5NL V's 3b range from BB when they get such a good price to flat.

You'll see 3bets here anywhere from 3x-4x most of the time. Probably less common, but it certainly happens often enough to consider.

Not folding vs 4x barring some very specific read, KQo is too high up in our range.

I haven't played on Stars in a couple of years and I'm not playing Zoom now, but where I play most people (including me) just pot it from the blinds.

never folding KQo to a 3bet in these positions btw, huge leak to do so

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