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5NL Zoom~ Thoughts on LAG'ish line 5NL Zoom~ Thoughts on LAG'ish line

12-18-2014 , 04:44 PM
Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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BTN: $4.19 - VPIP: 17, PFR: 8, 3B: 0, AF: 0,0, Hands: 24
SB: $5.00 - VPIP: 17, PFR: 14, 3B: 2, AF: 3,4, Hands: 378
BB: $9.91 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 19, 3B: 6, AF: 1,8, Hands: 93
Hero (UTG): $5.00
MP: $5.00 - VPIP: 25, PFR: 20, 3B: 3, AF: 0,7, Hands: 84
CO: $5.54 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 16, 3B: 4, AF: 3,0, Hands: 162

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is UTG with 6 6
Hero raises to $0.14, 1 fold, CO calls $0.14, 3 folds

Flop: ($0.35) 2 T 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.20, CO calls $0.20

Turn: ($0.75) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.45, Hero raises to $1.18

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $1.65
CO folds
Hero wins $1.58
(Rake: $0.07)


Villains looks like one of the very few solid at 5NL, very positional aware (EP:11 BU:44). Additional stats: AG%; 50(!) WTSD%: 13 FCB%: 0

Think he has to fold here soooo often, thoughts?
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12-18-2014 , 04:52 PM
I don't like it, you have the best hand here often enough that just betting the turn is probably better than check raising.
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12-18-2014 , 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 2000 East
I don't like it, you have the best hand here often enough that just betting the turn is probably better than check raising.
Name 1 hand that this guy is gonna call which is worse than 66 . I'm a 19-17 so his CC-range pf is pretty narrow i assume
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12-18-2014 , 05:04 PM
If hes a solid 5NL player like you say then i'm sure hes capable of floating here with quite a bit of his range knowing that it's hard for you to have hit this flop plus he's IP.

IMO betting the turn accomplishes the same thing as x/r does often enough and we don't have to put more money in the pot to get him to fold
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12-18-2014 , 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 2000 East
If hes a solid 5NL player like you say then i'm sure hes capable of floating here with quite a bit of his range knowing that it's hard for you to have hit this flop plus he's IP.

IMO betting the turn accomplishes the same thing as x/r does often enough and we don't have to put more money in the pot to get him to fold
You think he's folding 88-JJ ott? Or calls AK/AQ?
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12-18-2014 , 06:56 PM
If he folds you probably had the best hand.
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12-18-2014 , 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Bladesman87
If he folds you probably had the best hand.
You dont think he folds 77+?
He tanked for like 25 sec tho
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12-18-2014 , 07:10 PM
Maybe he tanked because your line doesn't make any sense?

You might get him off 88/99 exactly but that's not many hands.

Also our range is kind of messed up because we rep so little. We shouldn't be check/raising TT because we block his calling range so hard. We can have two combos of A2s and we probably just barrel that anyway.

If you think he has a ton of floats you should just check/call.
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12-18-2014 , 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Bladesman87
Maybe he tanked because your line doesn't make any sense?

You might get him off 88/99 exactly but that's not many hands.

Also our range is kind of messed up because we rep so little. We shouldn't be check/raising TT because we block his calling range so hard. We can have two combos of A2s and we probably just barrel that anyway.

If you think he has a ton of floats you should just check/call.
If I know he's gonna bet so often when check to, I could never x/r QQ+ here?
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12-18-2014 , 07:36 PM
You could, but if you're doing this to be exploitative that wouldn't make sense.

If you're check/raising to make him fold close to 100% (since he rarely has >one pair) then doing it for value makes no sense. He's not bet/calling with a float like QJs. So either let him bluff again on the river or barrel for value.

In terms of our range I'd rather just barrel here with all my strong hands. Maybe check/call more if I develop reads. I don't know if people would agree with that, but building a check/raising range when you struggle to have the nuts (or wouldn't want to play the nuts that way) doesn't appeal to me.
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12-18-2014 , 07:46 PM
don't like it. we are only repping like TT, or 77. Maybe A2. It doesn't make sense and he's going to know this because he's a reg. Also, his range ott is weighted towards made hands because the flop is super dry.
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