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10-12-2015 , 08:07 PM
Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

Hero (SB): $6.85 (137 bb)
BB: $11.34 (226.8 bb)
UTG: $5.02 (100.4 bb)
MP: $5.36 (107.2 bb)
CO: $8.65 (173 bb)
BTN: $8.16 (163.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q Q
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.15, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.50, BB folds, MP calls $0.35

Flop: ($1.05) 6 T T (2 players)
Hero bets $0.51, MP calls $0.51

Turn: ($2.07) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.05, MP calls $1.05

River: ($4.17) 7 (2 players)
Hero ?


1. GII if you get 4b, right? People 4b call shoves wider then only with AA\KK on MP?

2. How is this line? :\ x\fold now?
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10-13-2015 , 09:11 AM
UP
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10-13-2015 , 09:25 AM
As played river is either a shove or a x/f

Personally I would size just a tad bigger than you did in prevoius streets If I would choose your line.

Obv he gonna have some 10x that snaps a rivershove. Upside with going with bet/bet/shove is that your line looks bluffy. You shouldn't have many 10x so by taking that line he could call you down lighter since he might think you either has 10x or air.

My line would be to bet flop and x/c turn.
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10-14-2015 , 04:13 AM
On the river i would make a value bet. In the micro's they do hang on a small pair until the end or over value an AK. If the bet is raised i would just call.
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10-14-2015 , 08:56 AM
GII if you get 4b, right? People 4b call shoves wider then only with AA\KK on MP?
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10-14-2015 , 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by FNLover
On the river i would make a value bet. In the micro's they do hang on a small pair until the end or over value an AK. If the bet is raised i would just call.
We have less than 1 potsized bet left on the river. So b/c doesn't really exist.
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10-14-2015 , 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by ChalkOutline
GII if you get 4b, right? People 4b call shoves wider then only with AA\KK on MP?
I would. But have never played 5nlz and they say it is really nitty.

But bring in some ak i his 4bet/call range and some 4bet/folds hands in his range and shoving QQ will be +ev.
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10-14-2015 , 01:00 PM
I'm shoving the river here against any semi-capable+ reg here. Your range doesn't include many 3barrel valuehands, while you have tons of turned draws that would be bluffing. Expect villain to call down light. I feel like QQ is a bit of a cutoff hand, though. With JJ, c/c'ing against a capable reg or a fish and c/f'ing against everyone else would be my go-to line.

Your play here is very player-dependent.
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10-14-2015 , 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Swedishmonkey
But bring in some ak i his 4bet/call range and some 4bet/folds hands in his range and shoving QQ will be +ev.
Unfortunately only some won`t be enough. even if he 4bet\calls all of them we still get like 40% vs KK\AA\AKo\AKs

So the times he bluff 4bet\folds will only help us make it breakeven :\
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10-14-2015 , 03:38 PM
calling the 4bet is allowed
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10-14-2015 , 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ForeverLearning
calling the 4bet is allowed
Not a fan of it.
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10-14-2015 , 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ForeverLearning
calling the 4bet is allowed
Now look whos back Nice to see you safe and sound!
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10-14-2015 , 06:06 PM
Any stats on the villain? against the population I'd gii but really wouldnt love it.

I like your sizing fwiw. I find people are super reluctant to give up to a 1/2 pot or less bet on boards like this.

I'd c/f river. I really only see him paying you off with JJ here and once you check to him he's got no bluffs if he jams.
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