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Old 06-04-2012, 12:53 PM   #1
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5NL Cbet check raised with AA

Villain is new to the table. No reads other than posted a dead blind when came to the table.

The blinds are nits so I was assuming they were folding regardless.

My first problem: What should my preflop raise have been? Looking back I think I should have at least made it .25


Hero (BTN): $5.00
SB: $1.61
BB: $2.00
UTG: $1.26
CO: $5.05

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has A A

fold, CO calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.20, fold, fold, CO calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.47, 2 players) 6 T 8
CO checks, Hero bets $0.35, CO raises to $1.05, Hero??

Villains stack at this point: $3.80
Hero's stack at this point: $4.45
Pot: $1.87


What should hero's play/plan be here against an unknown?
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Old 06-04-2012, 12:54 PM   #2
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Re: 5NL Cbet check raised with AA

just jam, they can have pair/gutshots/draws that we are infront of.
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Old 06-04-2012, 02:25 PM   #3
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Re: 5NL Cbet check raised with AA

Shoving, sucks he had a set.
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Old 06-04-2012, 02:33 PM   #4
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Re: 5NL Cbet check raised with AA

Im jamming here a ton of worse hands he would do this with....
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Old 06-04-2012, 02:48 PM   #5
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Re: 5NL Cbet check raised with AA

$0.20-0.30 is fine since you have AA and position.

It's a tough spot. I don't think folding is terrible.

However, vs unknown, I'd stack off here. You'll never know what he could do this with. KK-JJ, pair, pair + draws, and so on.

After the hand, take note on what he did it with.
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Old 06-04-2012, 03:03 PM   #6
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Re: 5NL Cbet check raised with AA

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Shoving, sucks he had a set.
(I don't only post bad beat hands)



I felt shoving completely sucked since he limped/called. If I shove he may fold 10-X hands that aren't two pair and he'll snap call anything that dominates me. Wanted to see if the majority would have shoved the flop (as it seems everyone so far is agreeing.)



Any argument for flatting here and evaluating the turn? I took that option and that's what I really want an opinion on. I feel alot of players would just shove but I'd like to give myself a fold option if a 7, 8, 9, or 10 comes off as then if villain shoves turn it's an easy fold. Pretty much my plan was any face card, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, i'd call or shove the turn.


Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (BTN): $5.00
SB: $1.61
BB: $2.00
UTG: $1.26
CO: $5.05

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has A A

fold, CO calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.20, fold, fold, CO calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.47, 2 players) 6 T 8
CO checks, Hero bets $0.35, CO raises to $1.05, Hero calls $0.70

Pot: $2.57
Hero stack: $3.75
Villain stack: $3.80

Thoughts on flatting?

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Old 06-04-2012, 08:55 PM   #7
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Re: 5NL Cbet check raised with AA

I much rather get my money in whilst I'm almost sure I'm favourite instead of flatting, hopping a set of cards doesn't fall and THEN shove.

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he may fold 10-X
Doubt he will.
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Old 06-04-2012, 09:15 PM   #8
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Re: 5NL Cbet check raised with AA

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$0.20-0.30 is fine since you have AA and position.

It's a tough spot. I don't think folding is terrible.

However, vs unknown, I'd stack off here. You'll never know what he could do this with. KK-JJ, pair, pair + draws, and so on.

After the hand, take note on what he did it with.
+1

Villain posted blinds and limp-called oop. He IS a fish. It's not about if he is a fish, but how fishy a fish.
My experience is fish rather stack off with a bluff on the street they started it than barrel a bluff for several streets. You'll be amazed by the amount of crap that calls you OTF.
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Old 06-04-2012, 09:17 PM   #9
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Re: 5NL Cbet check raised with AA

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+1

Villain posted blinds and limp-called oop. He IS a fish. It's not about if he is a fish, but how fishy a fish.
My experience is fish rather stack off with a bluff on the street they started it than barrel a bluff for several streets. You'll be amazed by the amount of crap that calls you OTF.
+1, exactly why I'm stacking off with AA here.
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Old 06-05-2012, 05:55 PM   #10
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Re: 5NL Cbet check raised with AA

Thanks for the input everyone. I was in between just stacking off on the flop or flatting (never folding). Anyways here's the rest of the hand, villain had 9-10o

Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (BTN): $5.00
SB: $1.61
BB: $2.00
UTG: $1.26
CO: $5.05

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has A A

fold, CO calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.20, fold, fold, CO calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.47, 2 players) 6 T 8
CO checks, Hero bets $0.35, CO raises to $1.05, Hero calls $0.70

Turn: ($2.57, 2 players) 2
CO bets $3.80 and is all-in, Hero calls $3.75 and is all-in

River: ($10.07, 2 players) A

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