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5nl 2nd nut flush, optional line 5nl 2nd nut flush, optional line

03-28-2017 , 11:47 AM
    Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37691570

    Hero (BTN): $6.80 (136 bb)
    SB: $5.25 (105 bb)
    BB: $4.54 (90.8 bb)
    UTG: $4.98 (99.6 bb)
    MP: $5.27 (105.4 bb)
    CO: $3.58 (71.6 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q K
    3 folds, Hero raises to $0.12, SB calls $0.10, BB folds

    Flop: ($0.29) Q 8 5 (2 players)
    SB bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30

    Turn: ($0.89) 6 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks

    River: ($0.89) 9 (2 players)
    SB bets $0.45, Hero raises to $1, SB calls $0.55

    Spoiler:
    Results: $2.89 pot ($0.12 rake)
    Final Board: Q 8 5 6 9
    Hero showed Q K and won $2.77 ($1.35 net)
    SB mucked Q J and lost (-$1.42 net)



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    Thoughts on this line? Took this line (and sizing) on the turn and river to a). look like a bluff, and b). to extract maximum value from 3rd/4th nut flushes.
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    03-28-2017 , 12:04 PM
    I think it's too thin, and like it even less with the Q on the board.
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    03-28-2017 , 03:36 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Bladesman87
    I think it's too thin, and like it even less with the Q on the board.
    If we look at his line, he clearly has the Jack of spades here so much more often than the nut flush here though? Do you think he's only continuing w/ the nut flush? please elaborate, as I truly believe we may be missing value by just calling the river.
    Or are you saying you'e just going two streets on the turn and river? (this line imo is more likely to fold out weaker flushes)
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    03-28-2017 , 03:39 PM
    Go for two streets of value instead.
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    03-28-2017 , 05:43 PM
    The only thing I'd say about villain's play is I think his sizing is bad on the river. I don't think you can read too much into that because it's a normal mistake and we have no idea if it's a tell.

    To raise you need him to bet/call with Jsx/Tsx more than he turns up with the A, and I think that's really pushing it. Would rather bet turn where you more credibly rep bluffs.
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    03-28-2017 , 06:19 PM
    Lesson 1
    On in order to value bet you need to beat more then 50 % of V bet/calling range
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    03-28-2017 , 11:22 PM
    River is too thin. AP bet turn for value, people at this stake will call you w/ 2p and sets a decent enough amt of the time
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    03-29-2017 , 06:46 AM
    got it, cheers for the feedback!
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