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4-bet light a Squeezer (3 of 3 times) with AJo 4-bet light a Squeezer (3 of 3 times) with AJo

05-28-2016 , 07:39 AM
Changes that someone has a top 5% hand in 3 times in a row now 4 times are
0.00003125 %

Even a 10% range is with 0.01% quite low.
So obv this guy squeezes like hell.
But AJo of course is a problem if he jammes, maybe he is a maniac and jams so wide that i have to call.
So my size is pretty big here and i think we should either see a fold like 80% of the time or we should have enouph Equity to broke.
So we can go for 4-bet/broke against a obv 40-90% Squeeze range.

Many dont 4-bet light squeezes but is very profitable if you know that the squeezer is squeezing much.

I 4-bet very big, so that i have to call if he shoves, but like i said, if he has a 50% range here of course we play +EV either way.

If he folds we win 19 bb and so if he has at least a 30% range and shoves 50% we have 48% Equity so this is enouph because he folds 50% of time.
If he shoves only 4.52% of time we win 19.5% in (the estimated 30% range) 80% of cases, so surely we can lose all if he shoves because we win nearly 19 bb so we can lose near 80 bb if he jammes, of course even then we have 29% Equity and win 58 bb with risking 97, so we lose only 40 bb.
And with a 30% range he only will have 0.9% of times 4 Squeezes in a row but of course i guess that he dont have like 80% here but was lucky but you can see even he was lucky its nearly possible, that he have some 10% range here.

partypoker - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 142 BB (VPIP: 30.30, PFR: 29.29, 3Bet Preflop: 20.69, Hands: 102)
SB: 93.1 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 40.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
BB: 100.5 BB (VPIP: 24.29, PFR: 19.28, 3Bet Preflop: 5.99, Hands: 947)
UTG: 102 BB (VPIP: 37.04, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 28)
Hero (MP): 189.1 BB
CO: 101.7 BB (VPIP: 8.33, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 12)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J A

fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB, BTN raises to 11.4 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 39.6 BB, fold, fold

Spoiler:
Hero wins 55.5 BB

Last edited by philkill; 05-28-2016 at 07:47 AM.
4-bet light a Squeezer (3 of 3 times) with AJo Quote
05-28-2016 , 07:46 AM
Fine but 4b doesnt need to be this big

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05-28-2016 , 08:39 AM
It's a good hand to do this with but agree it's to big.

If you repeat your calcs above with a 4bet sizing with a 29bb 4bet you will find its a lot more profitable.
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05-28-2016 , 08:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CCM
It's a good hand to do this with but agree it's to big.

If you repeat your calcs above with a 4bet sizing with a 29bb 4bet you will find its a lot more profitable.
Even 27 does the job. Every bit of ev counts!
4-bet light a Squeezer (3 of 3 times) with AJo Quote
05-28-2016 , 08:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by IamMrLorax
Even 27 does the job. Every bit of ev counts!
Meh I think this will get called too much at 142bb stack depth, which you don't particularly want oop with this hand
4-bet light a Squeezer (3 of 3 times) with AJo Quote
05-28-2016 , 09:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CCM
Meh I think this will get called too much at 142bb stack depth, which you don't particularly want oop with this hand
Not too worried about a 30/30's post flop skills tbh and will often hang himself on Axx boards given rope.

Whats ur stars name btw?☺
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05-28-2016 , 10:30 AM
Yes, just saw we are deeper, i was not really wiling to 4-bet/fold because this could be a mistake if he spews around,so either he fold very much or i have still decent Equity and if i dont fold, what benefit have a smaller size, he might call a hand i dont want to call like AQ more frequently.
But we are deeper hm, so propably it could be a better 4-bet/fold then instead of 100 bb deep, he surely will not jamm this light with 143 bb like with 100 bb, so aggree if yu want to 4bet/fold of course a smaller size is better.
It was also some kind of missclick, i think i puttet 2/3 button and this was allready to big.
On PS they fear because of CO, they think that he could call with AA or even think that i 4-bet here so often light in his eyes that he started to move, but this is really uncommon on NL10,first they dont look at his Squeezepercentages with 15 hands he should have no hud and second light 4-bets against squeezes if im not wrong arent common at nl10 or am i just late in making such plays for a reg `?

They want to call, think im strong enouph here.

BTW if he has a 4-bet callingrange there are better hands, sure i block the AA but that all in case someboday squeezes somewhat normal but much i block all the AJ,AQ,KJ type of hands.
If you make calualtions with some calls, folds or 5-bets and you think the 4-bet rnage is pretty strong you can try this with needed Equity from Eqilab there are better hands, often this are suited Kx or depending on his callingrange not the AJ,AQ type of hands, if they call TT-QQ,AQs+,AK for example then a hand like QJo is better, i just make hundreds of calculatons for my light 4-betting range but i really dnt know how to construct a 4-bet call range but obv they call so much from the blinds, its just not normal and of course because this is population average there are also many 4-bet calls from fishes with like KQo and stuff like this if you are BTN.
But one think you would wonder, your needed Equity if called is so low that you can literally 4-bet nearly everything in some scenarios, because its not like 57% folds 43% 4-bets, its like 50% folds, 20% 5-bets and 30% calls and if you calculate this you end up needing like 20-25% Equity and then all suited hands are possible + all pp, the more they call with AK,AQ type hands the more i would take other hands if you dont count the blocker effect, hads like 65s for example or suited Kx if they call 99-QQ are good candiates.

One example, if he calls wth 99-QQ,AQo+ and you need 30% you get 1000. of suited hands, but if yo go higher you get like this.

22+,ATs+,K9s+,K7s-K5s,QTs+,J9s+,T9s,AQo+,KJo+,QJo,JTo

and surely the suited combos you realise more Equity so even 65+ should be much better then AJo in this case.


For 30% and this is very interesting, many and myself has wrong thinking about 4-bet spots or 3-bet spots with high FE, they prefer hands but would never think of 4-bet J2s and with ATo you have also negative implieds to, of course this example is extreme but it shows how wrong our intuition is in spots like this, they 4-bet A9o but dont even think about 53s.

22+,A2s+,K2s+,Q3s+,J2s+,T6s+,96s+,85s+,74s+,64s+,5 3s+,43s,AJo+,KTo+,QTo+,J9o+

And my F4b values in spots are higher because most 4-bet hands that blocks the QQ+,AK so in reality you even see more calls if you 4-bet with like 53s and you get tons of folds if you cbet 1/3 pot, i really wondered how many call 4-bets oop.

If you have a hand they dont expect you can reprent boards you missed and you get calls if you hit a monster, with ATo you have a problem.

Last edited by philkill; 05-28-2016 at 10:59 AM.
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05-28-2016 , 11:02 AM
This guy proly squeeze least 20% ish. Put in more small 4bets. Hes not likely to shove too wide.

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