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08-03-2015 , 03:30 PM

TH_Poker

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Readless on villain what is your plan for the hand?

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players

BTN: 109.2 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
Hero (SB): 107.8 BB
BB: 98.2 BB (VPIP: 26.67, PFR: 17.78, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 46)
UTG: 134.4 BB (VPIP: 26.19, PFR: 23.81, 3Bet Preflop: 10.53, Hands: 44)
MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 15.49, PFR: 14.08, 3Bet Preflop: 6.35, Hands: 144)
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 29.41, PFR: 23.53, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A

fold, fold, CO raises to 2.4 BB, fold, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, CO calls 6.6 BB

Flop: (19 BB, 2 players) K

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08-03-2015 , 04:13 PM

eenvis

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x/c flop and turn on blank, prolly have to call river on a blank as well

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08-03-2015 , 04:15 PM

Markulous

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Bet 14 BB. I'm not letting A spades get a free card and I'm going to value bet anyone with a K.

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08-04-2015 , 03:30 AM

TH_Poker

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Originally Posted by eenvis

x/c flop and turn on blank, prolly have to call river on a blank as well

I think this is an option - maybe best way to play it. I hate when it goes x/b oft though and the turn is bad for me

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08-04-2015 , 03:33 AM

TH_Poker

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Originally Posted by Markulous

Bet 14 BB. I'm not letting A spades get a free card and I'm going to value bet anyone with a K.

that is what I did - problem is though that there are few K and Q that we beat given we block A and k and q is on board

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08-04-2015 , 03:49 AM

eenvis

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Originally Posted by TH_Poker

I think this is an option - maybe best way to play it. I hate when it goes x/b oft though and the turn is bad for me

How about playing a bloated pot on a bad turn oop? The point is lots of hands in his range have lots of equity VS Ur hand and u cant get 3 streets of value anyway

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08-04-2015 , 04:03 AM

TH_Poker

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Originally Posted by eenvis

How about playing a bloated pot on a bad turn oop? The point is lots of hands in his range have lots of equity VS Ur hand and u cant get 3 streets of value anyway

That's why I say it's probably the best way to play it looking at it now...

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08-04-2015 , 04:05 AM

adriang

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definitely bet this flop and reevaluate after. Yes, probably not gonna be 3 streets of value unless 2 blanks come and he just keeps calling.

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08-04-2015 , 06:05 AM

TH_Poker

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Another reason not to bet is that I would hate to get raised here by some FD/SD...

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08-04-2015 , 09:40 AM

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VantACoo-key?

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Check

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08-04-2015 , 11:50 AM

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Kiwi_Shredder

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I'm in the call down camp and play hand as premium bluff catcher on brick run outs.

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08-04-2015 , 11:55 AM

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thesublimeobject

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Is b/f really bad?

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08-04-2015 , 12:06 PM

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Homsi

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I think your Hand needs ton of Protection on this board.. Especially oop. I bet this

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08-04-2015 , 12:30 PM

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eenvis

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Originally Posted by Homsi

I think your Hand needs ton of Protection on this board.. Especially oop. I bet this

Protection is not a reason to bet, thats just an odd way of saying there's a ton of bad turn cards for us. I.o.w. his flop-calling range has got lots of equity vs. our hand, hence we should pot-control. Which in turn is another way of saying playing against a range we still do very good against.

Last edited by eenvis; 08-04-2015 at 12:38 PM.

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08-04-2015 , 01:17 PM

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Homsi

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Originally Posted by eenvis

Well said. Ty

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08-04-2015 , 01:31 PM

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Markulous

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So you're saying pot control is better than value betting and charging villain for his draws? How do we play this differently with the A of spades?

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08-04-2015 , 04:06 PM

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TH_Poker

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Originally Posted by Markulous

So you're saying pot control is better than value betting and charging villain for his draws? How do we play this differently with the A of spades?

I certainly like charging v for draws, but two things to consider here:
1) playing big pots oop
2) villain will most likely bet his draws or pair + draw type hands imo

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