utg and mp are TAGs with high fold to 3bet stats
co 42/28 43 hands

PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) ZOOM - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $27.33
Hero (SB): $25.00
BB: $25.09
UTG: $25.00
MP: $25.47
CO: $17.43

Hero posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero has A K

UTG raises to $0.75, MP calls $0.75, CO raises to $2.50, fold, Hero raises to $5.50, fold, fold, fold, CO calls $3.00

Flop: ($12.75, 2 players) 8 6 9
Hero check/folds?

p.s. would you 4bet preflop?

Any reads of UTG and CO?

utg and mp are TAGs with high fold to 3bet stats
co 42/28 43 hands

I don't like the 4 bet there pre flop but since you did it and. Your range in his opinion. Is probably AA or KK

I would bet half the pot there's too much money in there to check

If you get shoved on its an easy gold but you gotta bet since you 4 bet pre imo

If you call pre it's a check

Actually I face a lot of situations like this at nl 25 - a raise+3bet and I sit with QQ or AK and usually fold these hands
but I think that I may fold best hands a lot

I wouldn't 4b pre.

As played you have less then PSB left so I would just ship it. Check/folding is gross, bet/folding is even worse and you still have enough FE+PE.

this is how I thought in the game
but when I did the math it appeared that I dont have enough neither FD nore PE

what do you think his calling 4bet range is?

In that case, would you fold or call? Personally, I'd almost never cold call 3-bets OOP with any hand.

It's zoom so I would just fold. There is UTG+MP+CO involved in the pot and given positions and action so far each of them might have a huge hand.
If we get it in our equity is below crap.

4bet pre for value is fine, id of made it like 6.25-6.50


kind of sucks now i just c-f dont think they are folding any PP

PeoplesElbow, do you get in vs playerss in early position?
they are going to put 5bet with a really string hand I guess

yeah i 3bet ak from the sb/bb alot vs UTG, dont really want to play it OOP. plus people call 3bets way too often these days with AQ AJ AT/KQ/KJ, easy stack post flop on Axx/Kxx


there 5bet jam is going be something like 88+/AQ+ maybe even worse since there not full stack and look like fish, may even see AJs KQs AIPF sometimes


given the dead money in the pot and were OOP

i 4bet/call this every time.

Meh, not a fan of the 4b to be fair. We have an UTG open and a fish raising, I'd just let this one go really. I suspect UTG to have a strong opening range, especially because it's zoom and well fish are gonna fish I guess.

Would've sized the 4b a tad bigger though, like elbow mentioned.

I'm not so sure about flop action though, I think what ever we do it's going to suck, so we should search for the least suckiest option. Bet/fold is clearly no option, so it's either shove(effective stack is 12 and pot is 13 so it's all good or check/fold. Not sure which one I hate the least.

When CO is short and running with loose stats I'm 4betting this all day and super happy about it, we could do it bigger though. probably a c/f now.

pre seems a little spewy tbh

flop is a c/f as played. worst flop ever

I mean, with the fish being short, 4betting cant be bad, but im pretty sure we still can't profitably stackoff vs UTG