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25NL 6max Zoom weird pot pre, fish or insta call flopp ? 25NL 6max Zoom weird pot pre, fish or insta call flopp ?

05-21-2017 , 04:58 AM
as the title above i need help to analyse this hand,I really dont know if i was the big fish here or is this standard play?
The Villian have stats
VPIP 29
PFR 25
3bet 8
4bet unknown

As you see the hand, there are so much action preflop so i didnt know where to put BB if he was bluffing pre or if he raise for value, (I have a very high "fold to cbets)

so im not sure if my call pre flop was really really bad or ok here?

on the flopp he jams insta and in my head i defenitly look like AA,KK,QQ but i have half the deck on my side. and I need to call 20 to win 40. can someone break down this weird pot for me pls.


Hero (BTN): $25.62 (102.5 bb)
SB: $42.86 (171.4 bb)
BB: $25.84 (103.4 bb)
UTG: $40.95 (163.8 bb)
MP: $28.39 (113.6 bb)
CO: $25 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with J T
UTG raises to $0.75, MP folds, CO calls $0.75, Hero raises to $2.50, SB calls $2.40, BB raises to $6.25, 2 folds, Hero calls $3.75, SB calls $3.75

Flop: ($20.25) T 5 2 (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $19.59 and is all-in, Hero calls $19.37 and is all-in, SB folds

Turn: ($58.99) 7 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($58.99) T (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Spoiler:
Results: $58.99 pot ($2.00 rake)
Final Board: T 5 2 7 T
Hero showed J T and won $56.99 ($31.37 net)
SB mucked and lost (-$6.25 net)
BB showed A A and won $0.00 (-$25.62 net)
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so when i did hit on the river i didnt know what to what to think, i was happy of course but i didnt know if this was a good or bad hand
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05-21-2017 , 05:17 AM
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i didnt know where to put BB if he was bluffing pre or if he raise for value
The chances he's cold 4-bet bluffing an UTG open and a squeeze are roughly 0%.

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(I have a very high "fold to cbets)
you're leveling yourself.

the flop play was good

Last edited by .isolated; 05-21-2017 at 05:17 AM. Reason: your 3-bet is not very good
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05-21-2017 , 06:07 AM
I would not 3bet this pre use some Axs as a bluff hands that can make a easy fold facing a4bet and sizing is maybe too small even IP.AP-Just fold to could 4bet even if he is bluffing he should use hands like AK AQ AJs and you are not doing grate in low SPR pot vs those.
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05-21-2017 , 06:19 AM
Lucky hit
Sqz pre is low size should be cca 4x. Fold to 4b, JTs is bottom of 3betting range. It might be coldcall instead of sqz.
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05-21-2017 , 12:35 PM
thx everyone for repleys

so to summary, pretty lagish preflop, and post flop are no discussion, 50% EQ all day long
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05-21-2017 , 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Shamway99
Lucky hit
Sqz pre is low size should be cca 4x. Fold to 4b, JTs is bottom of 3betting range. It might be coldcall instead of sqz.
I would agree with this
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05-21-2017 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Shamway99
Lucky hit
Sqz pre is low size should be cca 4x. Fold to 4b, JTs is bottom of 3betting range. It might be coldcall instead of sqz.
It's certainly a flat pre. 3-bet with the hands Haiz mentioned. 3-bet size is fine, I go one bb bigger but w/e.
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05-21-2017 , 06:02 PM
Im not a fan of bluffing sqz range, rather using linear range. Why do you sqz so small with polarised range?
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05-22-2017 , 12:33 PM
well i kind just got that feeling u know, that heres som extra money to be made pre flopp, with the UTG raise and one caller. that was all i was thinking. then when BB made a 4bet i felt kind of pot commited with position and not to look week next time he saw me at the table. but leasson learn played aporx 5k hands and haved never done it again with J-10s
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05-22-2017 , 09:31 PM
Grunching.

The first mistake was 3bet bluffing with a hand you should be flatting IP.

Second thing, the sb should be uber strong when he flat calls your 3 bet cold, the big blind should be even stronger than that when he cold 4 bets after the action that has taken place, i.e., UTG open, your 3 bet, the sb's flat. In other words, the big blind is going to be heavily weighted to AA but QQ-AA, AK and like almost no bluffs will be his range. Especially with the awesome stat's he seems to have.

If sb wasn't in the hand you could consider flatting the 4 bet IP like you did, but with him left, he's jamming over way too often.

As played you flopped gin and should never be folding the flop or turn (or that river)
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05-22-2017 , 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by .isolated
The chances he's cold 4-bet bluffing an UTG open and a squeeze are roughly 0%.
Yeah this lol
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05-22-2017 , 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by heeenkeee
well i kind just got that feeling u know, that heres som extra money to be made pre flopp, with the UTG raise and one caller. that was all i was thinking. then when BB made a 4bet i felt kind of pot commited with position and not to look week next time he saw me at the table. but leasson learn played aporx 5k hands and haved never done it again with J-10s
I'm not trying to say this in a rude way, but I think you are playing way too high. I'd play 5NL right now if I was you regardless of bankroll size.
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05-23-2017 , 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by WorldzMine
I'm not trying to say this in a rude way, but I think you are playing way too high. I'd play 5NL right now if I was you regardless of bankroll size.

haha nice read man! you are jugging a player just because of one hand and one-time mindset, i if you read from the beginnningen I also explain that i felt kind of a fish preflop. For your sake, im still at 25NL come and play with me.
stop trolling and hanging around of 2+2 and start to play instead
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05-23-2017 , 01:17 PM
easy flat pre

i didnt know where to put BB if he was bluffing pre> i put him on AK, KK+ Never bluffing.

i'd fold QQ if i was BB

glgl
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06-01-2017 , 01:14 AM
thx, everyone for the response even the trolling one
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