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04-29-2017 , 07:27 PM
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Villain is a clear donk and I think he can call with a lot of pairs but on the river I have to worry about him making a better 2 pair or a straight. I still think I can jam for value with a small SPR but what do you guys think, am I overplaying this?

$0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 175.05 BB
SB: 84.85 BB (VPIP: 20.26, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 239)
BB: 70.05 BB (VPIP: 57.85, PFR: 5.00, 3Bet Preflop: 1.82, Hands: 124)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J 9

Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, BB calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (5.5 BB, 2 players) J 4 9
BB bets 1 BB, Hero raises to 6.6 BB, BB calls 5.6 BB

Turn: (18.7 BB, 2 players) 6
BB bets 1 BB, Hero raises to 21.7 BB, BB calls 20.7 BB

River: (62.1 BB, 2 players) Q
BB bets 1 BB, Hero raises to 144.25 BB and is all-in, BB calls 38.25 BB and is all-in

Spoiler:
Hero shows J 9 (Two Pair, Jacks and Nines)
(Pre 36%, Flop 78%, Turn 77%)
BB shows T K (Straight, King High)
(Pre 64%, Flop 22%, Turn 23%)
BB wins 135.6 BB
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04-29-2017 , 08:08 PM
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I think I play same way on river I think we can get called by worse v this villain
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04-29-2017 , 08:27 PM
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You should fold river, he has KT.
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04-29-2017 , 08:31 PM
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WP, against this player TPTK might as well be nuts, so doubles seems like a dream. River jam seems fine because of SPR.
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04-29-2017 , 09:16 PM
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What I tried to imply with river SPR is that since a shove is 2/3 pot you can definitely get called by worse, maybe SPR wasn't the proper term to use here but that's my explanation for it
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04-29-2017 , 09:36 PM
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You should fold river, he has KT.
What's the point of trolling?
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04-29-2017 , 10:57 PM
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What's the point of trolling?
The same point as posting the result of the hand.
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04-30-2017 , 01:57 AM
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The same point as posting the result of the hand.
The point of me posting the result of the hand, *in the spoiler* (which you can choose to see) is so that those who have responded can compare their thought process against the results.

Obviously this is quite a dumb hand and villain is a complete donk, but I do think I have a decision on the river. I don't think I can ever fold at this point, but maybe I should check back or bet smaller for value in the case Villain doesn't have a set or the nuts. I really don't know how to interpret this line.

As for everyone else, I appreciate the response. It seems like you could even jam thinner than 2 Pair.
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04-30-2017 , 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by JoyO
The point of me posting the result of the hand, *in the spoiler* (which you can choose to see) is so that those who have responded can compare their thought process against the results.

Obviously this is quite a dumb hand and villain is a complete donk, but I do think I have a decision on the river. I don't think I can ever fold at this point, but maybe I should check back or bet smaller for value in the case Villain doesn't have a set or the nuts. I really don't know how to interpret this line.

As for everyone else, I appreciate the response. It seems like you could even jam thinner than 2 Pair.
I understand what you are saying but comparing thought process to results isn't a big deal and people will look at spoiler and it will skew there feedsback even if they don't realise it. I wouldn't even put it in a spoiler people don't need to see results and you will get the best feedback and opinions on your lines
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04-30-2017 , 04:35 AM
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people will look at spoiler and it will skew there feedsback even if they don't realise it. I wouldn't even put it in a spoiler people don't need to see results and you will get the best feedback and opinions on your lines
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04-30-2017 , 08:28 AM
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I understand what you are saying but comparing thought process to results isn't a big deal and people will look at spoiler and it will skew there feedsback even if they don't realise it. I wouldn't even put it in a spoiler people don't need to see results and you will get the best feedback and opinions on your lines
Yeah that makes sense - I'll omit the results the next time I post a hh. Thanks.
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