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11-30-2015 , 07:46 AM

Coldie

journeyman

Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 396

Afternoon boys. I have this river bluffing spot today. The V is pretty solid reg 24/19, CO 4b range 2%. I'm flatting this 4b pre because I'm IP vs strong range and got nice implied odds.

Poker Stars, $0.08/$0.16 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $20.07 (125.4 bb)
BB: $16.77 (104.8 bb)
UTG: $36.51 (228.2 bb)
MP: $23.29 (145.6 bb)
CO: $25.02 (156.4 bb)
Hero (BTN): $16.44 (102.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 4

2 folds, CO raises to $0.40, Hero raises to $1.44, 2 folds, CO raises to $3.36, Hero calls $1.92

Flop: ($6.96) 9

(2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $2.23, CO calls $2.23

Turn: ($11.42) J

(2 players)
CO checks, Hero checks

River: ($11.42) 9

(2 players)
CO checks, Hero ???

Ranges on otr:

1. Do I rep weak ace w B/x/shove line ?
2. would you rather shove turn or river ?

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11-30-2015 , 07:59 AM

Rebuild

veteran

Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 2,731

Not sure what you doing preflop but whatever. I think if you want to bluff you should bet turn shove river or just shove turn, doesn't really make much sense for you to check AQ+ OTT on this board.

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11-30-2015 , 12:33 PM

Nirwanda

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Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 7,699

Not gonna let you slip regarding preflop. 3betting is fine against a solid villain, but everything after that in this hand is complete spew, including your remark about implied odds.

River is probably the worst card in the deck to bluff, all draws missed and you can't a nine after betting flop and checking back turn.

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12-01-2015 , 07:02 AM

Coldie

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Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 396

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Originally Posted by Nirwanda

Not gonna let you slip regarding preflop. 3betting is fine against a solid villain, but everything after that in this hand is complete spew, including your remark about implied odds.

so you just fold to 4b pre ?

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12-01-2015 , 08:39 AM

AA-suited

journeyman

Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 304

Let me ask you this. What are you trying to represent here that's credible with this line?

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12-01-2015 , 09:39 AM

drakelol

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Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 2,149

CO 4b range 2%
Hero calls $1.92

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12-01-2015 , 10:27 AM

Denjua

adept

Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 1,198

V has 2% 4B and your flatting with 5c4c! I just wouldnt ever flat a 4B with 54s. Really looks like V has KK, or a weak suited ace that they bluffed with pre.

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12-01-2015 , 12:53 PM

krimson

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,613

75% pot b/f turn if you want to rep AK vs QQ/KK. By checking Turn you have already shown weakness and enticed QQ/KK to stay in the hand.

With that said though, you are spewing vs a highly probably AK TPTK hand that isn't going anywhere.

This whole hand is just a great example of how light 3-betting can turn into a spewfest really quickly. Not saying that you shouldn't throw the occasional light 3-bet out in zoom but you gotta learn to let go if it doesn't go your way.

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12-02-2015 , 07:34 AM

Coldie

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Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 396

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Originally Posted by AA-suited

Let me ask you this. What are you trying to represent here that's credible with this line?

AQ, ATs

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12-02-2015 , 07:43 AM

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Coldie

journeyman

Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 396

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Originally Posted by krimson

75% pot b/f turn if you want to rep AK vs QQ/KK.
With that said though, you are spewing vs a highly probably AK TPTK hand that isn't going anywhere.

Idk what game you play, but in no limit holdem AK is never checking twice in 4b pot on that board with initiative

but about pre, you're probably right.

I used to 3b/flat 4b w suited connectors as standard. You guys made me rethink this, which is great, cause I'm learning.

River: ($11.42) 9

(2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $10.85, CO folds

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