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Old 02-03-2012, 11:46 AM   #1
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116BB deep BU vs. CO 4b pot against a reg

Button has the stats VPIP: 26, PFR: 20, 3B: 13, AF: 1.3, Hands: 192
not much reads other than he's a reg, I don't know his 3bing tendencies, what hands he does this with, but he does seem to 3b me some so I do want to show I play back against 3bs so he doesn't target me too much
so my plan is to 4b small and cbet small if the board was dry and hope this makes him think I have a big hand

    Merge, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
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    BTN: $29.22 (116.9 bb)
    SB: $7.68 (30.7 bb)
    BB: $25.68 (102.7 bb)
    Hero (CO): $37.29 (149.2 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with 7 8
    Hero raises to $0.75, BTN raises to $2.10, 2 folds, Hero raises to $4.45, BTN calls $2.35

    Flop: ($9.25) A 5 3 (2 players)
    Hero bets $3.87, BTN calls $3.87

    Turn: ($16.99) 5 (2 players)
    Hero bets $5, BTN calls $5

    River: ($26.99) Q (2 players)
    Hero ?



    not sure if I should have bet turn, but if he has a hand like JJ/TT I would hate for him to call the flop and show down cheap
    on the other hand, which aces is he going to call preflop and fold to two barrels? if he had AK it's probably going in pre, if he has AT it's probably going to get folded pre (or if it's suited he should flat? or maybe he would 3b anyway?)

    I don't know if he 3bs AJ for value/isolating type 3b to get the other regs out of the pot, there's the shortie reg that may squeeze all in and a looser reg on the BB who 3bs

    anyway, not crazy about the turn bet, kind of want to shove river since it takes away from AQ combos and his kicker doesn't play unless he has AQ or AK (not likely) which are the hands I rep when I shove, but it looks really spewy and bad
    I want your comments on the hand in general, from my thought process pre to my bet sizing
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    Old 02-03-2012, 11:59 AM   #2
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    Re: 116BB deep BU vs. CO 4b pot against a reg

    fold to 3bet pre
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    Old 02-03-2012, 12:12 PM   #3
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    Re: 116BB deep BU vs. CO 4b pot against a reg

    Fold to 3bet pre. You hold rubbish and you are oop. You also bet too small on flop and turn. Your bluff is not believable.
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    Old 02-03-2012, 01:47 PM   #4
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    Re: 116BB deep BU vs. CO 4b pot against a reg

    Fold pre flop and click the leave table button. Find one without a 3 betting reg one seat to your left.
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    Old 02-03-2012, 06:35 PM   #5
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    Re: 116BB deep BU vs. CO 4b pot against a reg

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    Fold pre flop and click the leave table button. Find one without a 3 betting reg one seat to your left.
    repeat till wich stakes?
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    Old 02-03-2012, 07:34 PM   #6
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    Re: 116BB deep BU vs. CO 4b pot against a reg

    Why are you betting turn? Flop size is good.
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    Old 02-03-2012, 07:38 PM   #7
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    Re: 116BB deep BU vs. CO 4b pot against a reg

    4B bluff here with a hand like Axs, Kxs as they both 1) Have some equity post flop 2) Most importantly, have blockers making it less likely villian has AA,KK,AK.
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    Old 02-03-2012, 07:39 PM   #8
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    Re: 116BB deep BU vs. CO 4b pot against a reg

    I disagree with leaving the table... depends on if your trying to just "win" money or if your trying to be a better poker player.

    Flop bet is way too small.. i personally would rather 4bet bluff with hands like A5s, K9-K6s.. hands where it's extremely easy to play post flop but u can also get some great value from someone who tries to abuse 3betting from the blinds...
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    Old 02-08-2012, 11:01 PM   #9
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    Re: 116BB deep BU vs. CO 4b pot against a reg

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    I disagree with leaving the table... depends on if your trying to just "win" money or if your trying to be a better poker player.

    Flop bet is way too small.. i personally would rather 4bet bluff with hands like A5s, K9-K6s.. hands where it's extremely easy to play post flop but u can also get some great value from someone who tries to abuse 3betting from the blinds...
    they're not easy at all to play post-flop, what happens when you flop top pair and villain calls your cbet? c/f turn? c/c turn all in? surely you must be behind a lot if he pushes (and sometimes he'll have a good draw)
    what if he shoves the flop and you have top pair and it's semi-drawy? like A53 but two hearts
    is that a call? how is that easy at all if we hold A7?

    so the only difference is in this particular hand we split the pot with Ax because of how the board ran out

    when you have 7s8s you can bet flop/push turn when you flop a draw or bet/call flop
    I think my turn bet is bad, though, but flop bet was good because he can easily fold a smaller pair like 66-99 if flats those preflop for "set mining" or whatever
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    Fold pre
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