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05-14-2017 , 02:30 PM

bharrison

adept

Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 743

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37725426

Hero (BTN): $10 (100 bb)
SB: $7.85 (78.5 bb)
BB: $15.88 (158.8 bb)
UTG: $11.06 (110.6 bb)
MP: $10.73 (107.3 bb)
CO: $13.85 (138.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 9

2 folds, CO raises to $0.25, Hero raises to $0.75, 2 folds, CO calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.65) T

(2 players)
CO checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($1.65) K

(2 players)
CO bets $0.55, Hero calls $0.55

River: ($2.75) K

(2 players)
CO bets $1.45, Hero folds

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05-14-2017 , 03:06 PM

Karrlitos1

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 1,749

I call, his sizing is awful btw.

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05-14-2017 , 03:27 PM

bharrison

adept

Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 743

what do we beat tho other than a few As bluffs

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05-14-2017 , 03:40 PM

Haizemberg93

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 7,254

You just cant fold

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05-14-2017 , 04:14 PM

bharrison

adept

Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 743

can someone respond with an actual answer regarding ranges, hands we beat etc as ik it is ridic to fold but we don't beat anything in his value range/won't have enough bluffs

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05-14-2017 , 06:44 PM

Amuretated

stranger

Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 6

I am on phone so I wont actually look this up but I wonder how you can say he doesn't have enough bluffs without actually looking into it..

Bluffs I can see, qj with a spade, aj with a spade, aq with a spade.

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05-14-2017 , 08:04 PM

SCF

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,281

He doesn't need to have many bluffs. We need 25% equity to break even on a call. AQo and AJo with a spade are 12 combos. He has at most a dozen combos of flushes (and that's including a bunch of loose calls preflop and some passive play with those) and like 2 combos of better trips. It's pretty hard to come up with a ton of value hands that take this line. I'm discounting boats at this sizing - and if he gets 14bb out of me on a runner-runner boat, then good for him.

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05-15-2017 , 02:56 AM

whitemares

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 5,762

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Originally Posted by bharrison

won't have enough bluffs

Villain does have enough potential bluffs, most likely being AQ/AJ with a spade. We're going to have less flushes than villain, so it's reasonable that they might bet with good spade blockers after we've checked behind. I think that most of the time the widest villain is going to be for value is something like {TT,55-44,KJs+,K9s,AsQs,AsJs,QsJs,AsTs,QsTs,JsTs,As9s,As8 s,Qs9s,Js9s,Ts9s,9s8s,8s7s,KJo+}. We don't beat anything in villain's value range, but if villain does bluff with all 12 AQ/AJ combos, then it's a call.

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05-15-2017 , 03:53 AM

.isolated

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Originally Posted by bharrison

can someone respond with an actual answer regarding ranges, hands we beat etc as ik it is ridic to fold but we don't beat anything in his value range/won't have enough bluffs

It's trips against an unknown in a 3-bet pot where you're getting 3:1 otr closing the action. As Haiz said, you just can't fold. You can't say "we don't beat anything in his value range" or "won't have enough bluffs".

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