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10nlz - 3BP Line Check, Triple Barrel? 10nlz - 3BP Line Check, Triple Barrel?

05-29-2017 , 10:24 AM
    Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37742133

    BTN: $17.05 (170.5 bb)
    SB: $11.39 (113.9 bb)
    BB: $28.05 (280.5 bb)
    UTG: $8.22 (82.2 bb)
    MP: $10 (100 bb)
    Hero (CO): $21.79 (217.9 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with Q T
    2 folds, Hero raises to $0.25, 2 folds, BB raises to $0.90, Hero calls $0.65

    Flop: ($1.85) 9 4 2 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $0.74, BB calls $0.74

    Turn: ($3.33) 9 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $1.82, BB calls $1.82

    River: ($6.97) 8 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero checks




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    vs unk, don't think villain plays overpairs like this but I was reluctant to bluff due to my back blockers/removal. although we have quite a lot of value bets and cant really think of any other natural bluffs. what u guys think? should I barrel river?
    10nlz - 3BP Line Check, Triple Barrel? Quote
    05-29-2017 , 10:32 AM
    I'd just check this back on flop and probably turn and bluff with weaker FDs. Definitely need to give up river AP.
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    05-29-2017 , 10:52 AM
    u would check back flop and turn? why? I think villain has capped his range as I don't expect most villains the check overpairs here although I guess they can at a low frequency.
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    05-29-2017 , 11:15 AM
    There's no point checking back flop since your hand is never good but we have so much equity against his range. We only have about 5 worse flush draws anyway. I think on the turn you should decide whether to take the free card or to send 3 down, I don't think he'll fold often enough to 2 bets. I would probably send down 3 barrels but I would size the turn and river up, make it 3/4-full pot. Given how deep we were we have plenty of value hands here as well.
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    05-29-2017 , 11:17 AM
    We must give up some bluffs on the way, ott and otr. Another question is whether Qhigh should be check otr when you have Ahigh.
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    05-29-2017 , 11:42 AM
    reason why I bet turn is I believe villain will have lot of a high floats, otr what hands are we bluffing with that play this way?
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    05-29-2017 , 12:14 PM
    On the flop your saying you have either 9x, overpair, or a set. I think its fine to bet flop here. Problem is with the turn, because the board paired, the amount of value combos your repping on the flop decreases so id would check this turn with alot of your range including this flush draw. Alot of whats calling you here is underpairs, A4s, checked back 9x, some overpairs (although you mentioned that he wouldn't play them this way)? I think you have worse hands to you can barrel turn with here aswell and i think theirs better rivers to barrel on, so i'd check this one down.

    Alot of this spot depends on what villains tendencies are here in 3-bet pots, does he bet small with most of his range or does he check back?
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    05-29-2017 , 12:45 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by justwide
    On the flop your saying you have either 9x, overpair, or a set. I think its fine to bet flop here. Problem is with the turn, because the board paired, the amount of value combos your repping on the flop decreases so id would check this turn with alot of your range including this flush draw. Alot of whats calling you here is underpairs, A4s, checked back 9x, some overpairs (although you mentioned that he wouldn't play them this way)? I think you have worse hands to you can barrel turn with here aswell and i think theirs better rivers to barrel on, so i'd check this one down.

    Alot of this spot depends on what villains tendencies are here in 3-bet pots, does he bet small with most of his range or does he check back?
    what are the worse hands we would have to barrel here ott and otr?
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    05-29-2017 , 01:04 PM
    I'd check back the flop as well. I think that villain's flop checking range is going to be heavily weighted towards check/calls.

    I don't think the turn is a great card to barrel on, and obviously the river is a check.


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    05-30-2017 , 01:40 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by bharrison
    what are the worse hands we would have to barrel here ott and otr?
    I think this is for sure a spot where if your bluffing QTs your bluffing too much. You don't have that many value combos so there won't be that many bluffs, but i think 87s, 65, JTs,T8s make better bluffs. Then i think some stronger flush draws (A3s, A5s) you can go either way with.
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    05-30-2017 , 04:00 AM
    It is way too easy to be bluffing too much on this river. You have very few hands that want to bet 3 streets for value here (unless you're calling 70% of your RFI pre). I would find my weakest flush draw and bet that three streets, but even then I wouldn't bet it 100% of the time.
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