10NL KTo - Micro Stakes Pot Limit and No Limit

Upswing · 06-14-2012, 07:08 AM

BTN: $5.26 (52.6 bb)
SB: $9.90 (99 bb)
Hero (BB): $22.31 (223.1 bb)
UTG: $10 (100 bb)
MP: $13 (130 bb)
CO: $2.01 (20.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K

T

4 folds, SB completes, Hero raises to $0.40, SB calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.80) T

J

K

(2 players)
SB bets $9.50 and is all-in, Hero ?

opponent`s unknown

fsn · 06-14-2012, 07:27 AM

call? sorry he had Q9

Myopic Llama · 06-14-2012, 07:32 AM

snapping this off

elrhysio · 06-14-2012, 07:55 AM

To me this is a fold.

Even if we assign the villain a generous range of KK, QQh, JJ, 1010, AQ, J10, JK and Q9 we have 30% equity in the hand, and we need 33% from the pot odds to break even.

While the villain may be bluffing here rarely, the over the top shove would make me believe this is a straight which doesn't want to see another heart far more often than the other combinations which makes us an even worse dog. Besides at 10NL there are far better spots to get our money in and avoid possible tilt.

Code:

Hands	Combinations	Equity	Comb * EV	
KK	               1	         6.16	            6.16	
QQh	               3	         62.4	           187.2	
JJ	               3	         14.75	   44.25	
1010	               1	         15.5	           15.5	
AQ	               16	         20.47	   327.52	
J10	               6	         90.1	           540.6	
JK	               6	         14.93	   89.58	
Q9	              16	         21.69	   347.04	
	              52		1557	           30%

dalonelybaptist · 06-14-2012, 07:57 AM

Tag him as green and call

Upswing · 06-14-2012, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elrhysio

To me this is a fold.

Even if we assign the villain a generous range of KK, QQh, JJ, 1010, AQ, J10, JK and Q9 we have 30% equity in the hand, and we need 33% from the pot odds to break even.

While the villain may be bluffing here rarely, the over the top shove would make me believe this is a straight which doesn't want to see another heart far more often than the other combinations which makes us an even worse dog. Besides at 10NL there are far better spots to get our money in and avoid possible tilt.

Code:

Hands	Combinations	Equity	Comb * EV	
KK	               1	         6.16	            6.16	
QQh	               3	         62.4	           187.2	
JJ	               3	         14.75	   44.25	
1010	               1	         15.5	           15.5	
AQ	               16	         20.47	   327.52	
J10	               6	         90.1	           540.6	
JK	               6	         14.93	   89.58	
Q9	              16	         21.69	   347.04	
	              52		1557	           30%

the range you gave him is hilarious.

elrhysio · 06-14-2012, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Upswing

the range you gave him is hilarious.

I'm new at this, so what would you change? I'd have thought the range I gave was generous - is it not?

fsn · 06-14-2012, 08:12 AM

you shouldn't even try to assign him a range. This is like having QQ and someone openshoves pre

elrhysio · 06-14-2012, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fsn

you shouldn't even try to assign him a range. This is like having QQ and someone openshoves pre

Fair enough. Out of interest does anyone have stats from their databases on how often a shove pre-flop/on the flop is air?

ELIF · 06-14-2012, 10:43 AM

I would call there. You have a good hand vs. a limper in BvB.
Even if he has the straight, you still have outs to chop, make broadway
or manage to make a boat.

dirtylobster · 06-14-2012, 11:27 AM

He has a ****load of flushdraws in his range, snap it.

Upswing · 06-14-2012, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirtylobster

He has a ****load of flushdraws in his range, snap it.

finland says, san jose does

Mark89er · 06-14-2012, 05:30 PM

lol

crazy spot

its okay to shug and give up 4bb...other days its okay to go fuuuu and your mummy too i call for all my virtual chips

PeoplesElbow · 06-14-2012, 05:40 PM

id just fold, I dont think a fish is gonna overjam here with a weak pair+draw to win 80cents. I can defo see them jamming with a straight scared of a flush though. Kj is a bit closer, but KT i fold. AA they can have which tried to slow play now and again and now thinks "oh chit" thats a bad flop, jam.

baohoa · 06-14-2012, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dalonelybaptist

Tag him as green and call

I would call and tag him in green later, would hate myself if i time out