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10nl KK 3bet pot vs paired flop check raise 10nl KK 3bet pot vs paired flop check raise

03-28-2017 , 06:58 AM
Had a weird hand with KK today which I'd like some advice on.

    Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    SB: $14.32 (143.2 bb)
    Hero (BB): $27.42 (274.2 bb)
    UTG: $16.53 (165.3 bb)
    MP: $11.19 (111.9 bb)
    CO: $5.85 (58.5 bb)
    BTN: $13.39 (133.9 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with K K
    UTG folds, MP raises to $0.26, 2 folds, SB calls $0.21, Hero raises to $1, MP folds, SB calls $0.74

    Flop: ($2.26) J J 4 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $1.62, SB raises to $4.10, Hero folds

    Spoiler:
    Results: $5.50 pot ($0.25 rake)
    Final Board: J J 4
    SB mucked and won $5.25 ($2.63 net)
    Hero mucked K K and lost (-$2.62 net)


    Wasn't too sure if I could jam over the top here or whether folding is just the best play all round. I did a pokerstove simulation giving him a range of QQ,JJ,AKs,AKo,AJs and QJs. I think all of these could call my 3bet and then also play this way on the flop with the AKs/AKo being bluffs. This had me as a 74% favourite, however if I removed the AK hands then it has me at 63% and then also removing QQ has me at a measly 8% to win.

    Given all of this information do people think I should be calling/jamming here or is folding the best option? I had 20 hands on villain so no discernible info to help with the decision. If we include his bluffs then I'm well ahead but if he's only playing this way with a J then I'm way way behind.
    10nl KK 3bet pot vs paired flop check raise Quote
    03-28-2017 , 07:18 AM
    Raise more pre given stacksizes

    Cbet smaller otf
    10nl KK 3bet pot vs paired flop check raise Quote
    03-28-2017 , 07:20 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by btthywrsooted
    Raise more pre given stacksizes

    Cbet smaller otf
    Yeah I should've probably gone to 5x or something pre, but even so am I ever calling/jamming vs this reraise?
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    03-28-2017 , 07:37 AM
    Put him on a range of hands and see how do against that range. Ask yourself questions like:
    1) What range of hands is likely given pre flop action
    2) Is V capable of playing a flopped FD like this?
    3) Is it likely that V is raising the JX in his range?
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    03-28-2017 , 05:34 PM
    I'd never fold otf vs this and jamming is bad so....
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    03-28-2017 , 10:17 PM
    litlle biger 3bet size pre and otf smaller like 50%.
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    03-28-2017 , 10:51 PM
    cbet smaller imo, ap flop is a call
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