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Old 08-09-2012, 06:04 AM   #1
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10NL JJ UTG against SB 3-bet

Villian have 3-bet from sb 7% which mean IMO that he is capable of 3-betting light and also not 3-betting only QQ+. I have been in one hand with him where he 3-betted me IP and call my 4-bet but snap fold on my bet OTF. I´m not sure whether I can profitably play this hand IP by just flatting or do you prefer some other action. Thaks

Poker Stars $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1849470
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SB: $10.00 - VPIP: 13, PFR: 11, 3B: 9, AF: 8.0, Hands: 153
BB: $12.00 - VPIP: 65, PFR: 13, 3B: 10, AF: 2.1, Hands: 72
Hero (UTG): $10.24
MP: $10.68 - VPIP: 18, PFR: 15, 3B: 5, AF: 4.3, Hands: 368
CO: $10.00 - VPIP: 16, PFR: 6, 3B: 0, AF: Infinity, Hands: 31
BTN: $12.10 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 13, 3B: 5, AF: 1.1, Hands: 117

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG with J J
Hero raises to $0.35, 3 folds, SB raises to $1.20, 1 fold, Hero ????
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Old 08-09-2012, 06:10 AM   #2
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Re: 10NL JJ UTG against SB 3-bet

hes really repping QQ+ with this line, I dont think worse over pairs to the board play like this, i dont like there turn bet sizing, looks for pure value we can expolit that by folding I think.
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Old 08-09-2012, 08:40 AM   #3
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Re: 10NL JJ UTG against SB 3-bet

He can have a high-ish 3-bet from SB, but how many of those were against UTG? My bet is that a majority of them were against BTN and CO steals. Villain is also 13/11.

I'd fold.
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Old 08-09-2012, 08:55 AM   #4
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Re: 10NL JJ UTG against SB 3-bet

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He can have a high-ish 3-bet from SB, but how many of those were against UTG? My bet is that a majority of them were against BTN and CO steals. Villain is also 13/11.

I'd fold.
This! +The sample size is pretty small, i wouldn't read too much in the 3-bet% after 150 hands.
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Old 08-09-2012, 12:55 PM   #5
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Re: 10NL JJ UTG against SB 3-bet

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This! +The sample size is pretty small, i wouldn't read too much in the 3-bet% after 150 hands.
Ok and what is consedered a adequate sample size to know that. thanks
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Old 08-09-2012, 04:36 PM   #6
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Re: 10NL JJ UTG against SB 3-bet

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hes really repping QQ+ with this line, I dont think worse over pairs to the board play like this, i dont like there turn bet sizing, looks for pure value we can expolit that by folding I think.
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Old 08-09-2012, 05:31 PM   #7
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Re: 10NL JJ UTG against SB 3-bet

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Ok and what is consedered a adequate sample size to know that. thanks
200 hands so 150 is enough.
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Old 08-09-2012, 05:33 PM   #8
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Re: 10NL JJ UTG against SB 3-bet

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hes really repping QQ+ with this line, I dont think worse over pairs to the board play like this,.
What board he got 3b preflop ?

its a fold for me anywho.
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Old 08-10-2012, 01:17 AM   #9
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Re: 10NL JJ UTG against SB 3-bet

haha i posted drunk
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Old 08-10-2012, 01:51 AM   #10
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Re: 10NL JJ UTG against SB 3-bet

yea seems like a fold.

The other day I potted the utg opener with AK suited. No reads on him. He shoved. I was steaming after a pot in another table so I called ai. The funny thing is that I'd even told myself before I 3-bet, "If he 4 bets I'm folding." Then he did it and I called, lmaoo. anyway, it's intersting because the villain had JJ, so it's similar to this situation. But in retrospect I think my play was very spewy aginst utg with no reads. and so was villain's call with JJ i think. You did right to fold.
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Old 08-10-2012, 01:52 AM   #11
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Re: 10NL JJ UTG against SB 3-bet

actually, sorry, you didn't say if you folded or not. Anyway, i think it's a fold lol
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