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07-26-2016 , 07:27 PM
    Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37401348

    BB: $10.15 (101.5 bb)
    UTG: $10.22 (102.2 bb)
    MP: $10.30 (103 bb)
    CO: $11.56 (115.6 bb)
    BTN: $10.29 (102.9 bb)
    Hero (SB): $14.11 (141.1 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with J J
    UTG raises to $0.25, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.20, BB raises to $1.30, UTG folds, Hero calls $1.05

    Flop: ($2.85) T 3 9 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BB bets $1.60, Hero calls $1.60

    Turn: ($6.05) 2 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BB checks

    River: ($6.05) 2 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BB checks

    Spoiler:
    Results: $6.05 pot ($0.27 rake)
    Final Board: T 3 9 2 2
    BB mucked 8 8 and lost (-$2.90 net)
    Hero showed J J and won $5.78 ($2.88 net)



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    V is a reg, 26/22/11, 10% squeeze, 1.3k hands

    When he checks turn I think I'm ahead a lot of times

    Q1: would you value bet that river to get value from Tx?
    Q2: if we check, and he bets $4.50 into $6 (or something similar), what should we do?

    Thanks guys!
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    07-26-2016 , 07:29 PM
    Bet river.
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    07-26-2016 , 09:35 PM
    If villain bets river I call because his turn check didn't make sense
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    07-27-2016 , 12:06 AM
    Against a 26/22 I'm 3betting pre and folding to a 4bet. He's opening wide enough that we can 3bet for value. The turn is the biggest brick in the entire deck and he checks it. Why would he be checking here with any value hand that has you beat. QQ+, TT,99,T9s (if he for some reason 3bets those last three) should all be ecstatic to value bet this turn. I understand that OTR it is easy to be kinda nervous about betting into QQ+ since he 3bet an UTG open pre. However, why on earth would he be checking back that range OTT? I think you can value bet this river for around 4.50 trying to get value from Tx that will often check back while honestly expecting villain to fold his bluffs and also not bet his bluffs that often if checked to. If villain bets river (which I think is very rare as played) I'm snap calling and my brain explodes if its QQ+. I also would laugh at how bad villain is and tag him as a fish and leave a note about the hand.
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    07-27-2016 , 12:21 AM
    Q1: I think it's more likely to induce a bet from Tx by checking it than it is to get called by it.

    Q2: Call or shove but don't fold, ever.
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    07-27-2016 , 02:56 AM
    3 bet pre!
    Q1: Definetely
    Q2: Snap call
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    07-27-2016 , 04:23 AM
    your range looks like QQ-TT after calling flop so yeah he is probably barreling his QQ+ ott. His line seems so air/protection heavy that we should bet like 1/4 pot or so imo. If he is the bad aggro type that will stab river with his air again then x/c
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    07-27-2016 , 05:20 AM
    In vacuum bet for fat value almost always better than bluff catching. At least at microstakes sinse people in love with calling. Can't imagine how opp can be bluffing this river after his line very often.
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    07-27-2016 , 05:32 AM
    Thank you for all your answers!
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    07-27-2016 , 05:40 AM
    Another question.... what's your plan if he best the turn?
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    07-27-2016 , 06:18 AM
    Call vs 1/2 (because it can be worse hand for value) and fold vs bigger since you block most of the semi-bluffs with your jacks.
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    07-27-2016 , 02:22 PM
    ^ no one is squeezing vs UTG and cbetting a worse hand for value ott here
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    07-28-2016 , 03:25 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by drakelol
    ^ no one is squeezing vs UTG and cbetting a worse hand for value ott here
    Ofc everyone solid, no money in poker. There is absolutely zero amount of aggrotards at super high limit with big blind 10 cents. Stakes so high that i lost my breathe everytime watching it.

    No way that one could sqz smthg like AT/KT/QT with blockers trying take down pot preflop and betting small 2 streets for value when hit top pair.
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    07-28-2016 , 04:31 AM
    I bet river all day and also calling if he check-raises, because he has air like 90% here after he don't bet turn OR river.
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    07-28-2016 , 06:10 AM
    We shouldn't have QQ or JJ in our range unless villain is nitty utg.

    Bet river for sure.
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