BTN: $41.73 (417.3 bb)
SB: $8 (80 bb)
BB: $18.66 (186.6 bb)
UTG: $27.51 (275.1 bb)
Hero (MP): $20.29 (202.9 bb)
CO: $20.87 (208.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K A
UTG raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $1, 4 folds, UTG raises to $2.40, Hero ?


Opponent 27\23 w fold to 3bet 2\3 for only 50 hands
Call or fold pre:

1. with 100 BB
2. this deep

Fold but save the headaches and don't 3b an utg raise with AK. You should already know if 3betting villain can be profitable by either getting it in or by villain calling the 3b to much.

Your already building some reads and villain has folded to 3b 2/3 so he's obviously playing tighter vs them 3betting AK here is just burning money,it may be immediately profitable to 3b but that shouldn't be your thinking for making the maximum with your range long term vs him.

Anytime you face a decision that isn't easily resolvable with a bit of thought is probably because you played it wrong. These are cut and dried decisions the only real decisions you should have to make should involve equity decisions.

When your 3 betting a hand like AK AQ QQ JJ you should already know what your doing when villain 4bets and it should never come as a surprise to you when he does.

Mp vs utg is also ridiculously strong when you 3b

1 shove
2 call

edit: @counter

Definitely a 3bet vs this opponent with these stacksizes.

Because we want to play an inflated pot against the top of utg's range 200bb deep ?

Sound advise.


And honestly you cant think 5 bet shoving 200bb can ever be profitable in this spot ? Calling is just as bad.



@ op I would also of just called this 100bb deep.

First: villain plays 27/23, so yes i want to play a 3bet pot deep and in position.

Second: He asks what to do with 100 bb's and with the current stacksizes. If you read better I don't advise to ship 200 bb's.

Edit: and calling a 4bet with 100 bb's is the worst advice you can give.

1stly its a 4b pot vs utg who has folded 2/3 to 3bets so far we can realistically say his 3b calling range/4b range utg is going to be very tight.

Secondly i still don't think this is going to be good long term to stack off AK vs this villain from utg vs mp for 100bb so even for 100bb i would call and play some poker rather than 3 betting preflop.


You also said this which leads me to think you meant 200bb



which is why i never suggested he should call

Against a lag its fine to stack off for 100 bb's. Against a nit flatting open raise with 100 bb's is fine.

We will have to beg to differ and you will have to continue to think these are coolers.

Not sure how 27/23 with a fold to 3b of 66% get labeled a lag after 50 hands either his stats lead me to think he's probably very competant

Stacking off KK+ vs a 27/23 (even if he opens UTG) is a leak unless you have reads (which means you can 3bet every hand and print tons of money! Talking about 100bb deep). As standard you should 3b/shove QQ+,AK for value against him then adjust. Your stackoff -value- ranges will probably wide up to something like AQ+, TT+ or so (+ bluffs if you adjust correctly and if he fights back your 3bets).

This deep it's a 3b/flat and I'd probably 3b a little bit more, let's say $1.20 (and he should have 4b a little bit more because of our stacks but your size is not a big mistake I think). Wait for better posts, I suck at deep games

Don't 3b 100 deep. 3betting this deep is obviously fine. I call now

I agree that its a pretty clear 3bet pre, flatting is so week.

I asked whether should i flat his 4bet with this stack sizes, cause i wasn`t sure, will he pay off me with hands worse postflop. like If we get A, he probably folds everything worse on the turn, if we get K, story is thesame, but we can also loose sometimes to AA, but that doesn`t really mean that well have to pay him off al our 200 BB , and so on.

Theirs those that beat the game by crushing the fish and theirs those that beat the game by crushing the fish and exploiting the regs.


Flatting pre isn't weak it just means you make more form your entire range , 3 betting this spot may be immediately profitable when he folds but your isolating your self vs a range that crushes AK and long term is going to be far less profitable.

Win small lose big spot.

I would flat pre every single time readles.

I dont think 3betting is -ev, but I dont understand why you'd want to 3bet this 200 deep and not 100 deep.

Is that because its easier to get away from if he 4bets or something?

Cuz now the people that say 3bet also want to call the 4bet.

I'm not convinced.

It's because he is going to call with worse/hands we don't mind him calling with OOP so much more often at 200bbs than 100. Should be a pretty logical jump

Its pretty obvious that we want to 3bet this 200 BB deep. When we do, he calls with a very wide range, and all 22+. he will even set mine loose, and we `ll get additional profit.